I just think that people are not ready for the kind of music he gives these days. I don't have a musical knowledge to comment on technicalities. But my personal opinion is that every other album is a Bluffmaster or Kalyug. One never lets go of a winning formula. I like RDB. I think it's a wonderful album. But this happens to be one of those debates that could go on forever and we would never reach a conclusion. But then I don't think that one should just conclude that ARR has lost his magic. That is not true.
--- "Doraiswamy S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am an ARR fan but I dont find RDB all that good .. > its ok in parts and he > shows his briliance at some places .. but not very > consistent though .. > atleast to novice listeners like me. I think I have > listened to Bluffmaster > and Zinda more than RDB. I havent heard Kalyug. > > I dont find in RDB the kind of value I found in > Alaipayuthey, Dil Se or > Kandukodein. ARR himself is to blame for the high > standards he set for > himself in his intial years. Sadly I think he is not > able to do that now. > His golden period where everything he touched turned > gold ..seemed to end > after AlaiPayuthey and KK, 2 magnificient albums > that released so close to > each other. After that he did produce gems like > Bose, Meenaxi .. but he > couldnt strike chord with the general public. And > that matters a lot. > > On 1/8/06, dsuday <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > From what I understand from some of the posts > which have been put across > > by members, it seems that RDB Music is not a sales > success which was a > > shock to me as this seems to be one of the Best > Music of 2000's.... > > > > We do not have the Nielson soundscans or NPD > surverys type thing in > > India, hence it would be premature to assume that > this hasnt sold well > > till information confirming this is made > available. > > > > That there is currently a kind of Bias or a > movement with sole purpose > > of undermining ARR's effort and ignore the variety > of his creativity > > with misinformation, half truths and pure > ignorance. > > > > At one end we have the Music professionals who > make comments which > > strive to undermine his musical genius, while > during his hey days > > heaped praise on his abilities, ofcourse there > were Old timers who had > > criticised him from his early days but I am > talking about the current > > crop who are doing their best to discredit him > now. > > > > At other end we have "music lovers" if you call > them so (I know it > > sound s pretty condescending as if I am being very > biased...but it is > > not so), who say that "his music is repetiive" > "his creativity is > > limited" "okay some songs were good but that > doesnt mean he is great" > > "he is not versatle...look at RD burman etc. The > music loving > > public who used to buy the album just by seeing > his name in the late > > 90's are not opening up and buying his music as > they used to do so and > > therby contributing to the decline. > > > > From what I understand from my experience and I am > not any > > professional just a layman who can feel and > experience good music, and > > judge what is a creation of greatness, what is > mediocre, what is > > ephemeral. Just like other members I just believe > in my instincts to > > judge music. Indian public has been fed on similar > kind of popular > > music since the LP records started selling here. > All the songs confirm > > to some Basic rules, have a defined structure and > were inspired by > > the Classical musics of different era...modified > and downgraded so > > that the general public can enjoy them. That is > the only bit of > > innovation they did, they made music in such a way > that it appeals to > > the common man and he came to expect all the songs > to follow similar > > standards, and in this limited setup many great > music pieces have come > > which have been of great artistic and commercial > success. The only > > musicians who tried to do some sort of innovation > to this setup was RD > > Burman and OP Nayyar and probably few others. > Their music was hit and > > apprecaited but nobody would have called them > great musicians. From > > what I have seen RD Burman's became recognized as > a great Music > > director since his death, as the industry found > his output was of > > remixable quality which can appeal to the current > generations. This > > infact grew his popularity and made people like me > end up buying all > > the available collection of his original song > currently existing in > > market. In this kind of setup ARR had set in and > brought in an > > entirely different musical experience to the music > loving public. He > > defined and created something called Individual > style in which the > > musician is recognized just by listening to the > music. Though this > > would be a bare minimum in other places as just by > listening to a > > small sample people were able to judge whether the > song was by The > > WHo, Pink Floyd, Queen, Led Zeppelin etc else, > this ability became > > something special here. > > > > ARR's popularity and his musical successes grew > and he seemed to > > garner all major awards and had excellent sales to > show. He was by far > > the greatest Music Director in India and had a > star power no musician > > ever enjoyed in India. > > > > And then came the "Going International" phase, > during the time which > > most of his Indian releases tanked. In the end it > all turned to > > success for his music which we of Blockbuster > quality and the last > > major hits turned out ot be Lagaan and Saathiya. > His musically > > superior albums which were released subsequently > did not do as well as > > they might have deserved, many of the movies didnt > have the star power > > and incase they had star power (Swades, Mangal > Pandey) the music was > > so true to the subject that it was not possible > for them to be > > immediately appeable in the current scenario of > bubblegum remixes and > > songs. Infact these have been stated as ARR' > musical decline and loss > > of commercial credibility. > > > > Today ARR is in a position where his music would > be compared to his > > peers (who are worthless except SEL)and his music > would have to be of > > Blockbusterish quality to sell. I had thought RDB > had a very great > > possibility of bringing back ARR on the league he > once was in again, > > but it seems to be not so. I hope that after the > release of the movie > > and if it becomes a success people understand and > appreciate the music > > better and give the man his due. > > > > Or he should completely be concentrating more on > International Project > > s and maybe he will reach the stature of John > Williams or James > > Horner. Atleast the collective worldwide audience > would not expect > > predictability once they acknowledge his genius. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, > The Music, The Magic. > > Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive > A.R.Rahman e-community. > > > > Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com > > Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Subscribe: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > === message truncated === __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. 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