Hi Ray and others, In this regard, we may have to bring in an old topic, I guess.
It is regarding the "technical ability" or more precisely, the "technical affordability" of the masses who decide between a hit and a flop, be it music or the movie. In movies, it works like this... Higher the tech stuff, more people flock the theatres. Or they get a good clarity CD/DVD and enjoy the visuals, and still have the feel-good factor for themselves. But in Music, many people listen to the a NEW FILM's music in "stereo" quality and not in the 5.1's and above. So, the "sounds which are lost in conventional media" make no difference to these end users. In fact it helps because if these sounds were completely absent, the sound "perception" becomes much clear. The user would feel that the quality is very high, whereas the overlapping sounds of many instruments make the music look somewhat distorted. Thanks for reading. Chandra. --- In [email protected], "Ravi d" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The music come from a Highly technicall stuff and there happens the > recording, what will happen if the end product delivered uses the old > outdated or less compatible stuffs. Do you remember ARR saying he is happy > to do it on 5.1 technology as most of sound are lost in the conventional > media. > > -RAY > > On 2/27/06, Tapey3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > What's the process here from multitrack to CD? I assumed that H. > > Sridhar mixes it down to stereo, which the company turns presses into > > stamping master, then CD. Are there more steps than this? Could > > Ayngaran, Star, etc. be messing it up? > > > > I bought AE in India from Sony, but I lost it, so I rebought it from > > Ayngaran, and it sounds fine to my ears. I also bought Rhythm and > > some other film on the CD in a combo. The Rhythm tracks were high > > quality, and the other album (composed by Deva) sounded like an old > > analog recording. > > > > --- In [email protected], "stylegamer" <stylegamer@> wrote: > > > > > > Bharath of singingphotons , has it got something to do with ayngharan > > > , pyramid ect? All i knew was that when come to ARR songs in the > > > past...pyramid Cd's were always top notch...ALai Osai had a softer > > > muted sound like minsara Kanavu and khadal Desam...I have those CDs > > > and i played them to fin dout , the same Discman i used 10 years ago.. > > > it is indeed true.....i am sure it has something to do with those > > > companies > > > Something's wrong..ARR 's new studio is the most state of the art in > > > the whole of Asia currently...then why is this happening? > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bharathidasan Venkatesan" > > > <rvbharathidasan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Glad that I am not the only one observing this. For a minute I > > > thought I > > > > probably was high smoking something... > > > > > > > > Here is a partially conclusive thread following the release of Aah > > > Aah, > > > > coincidentally started by StyleGamer :) > > > > > > > > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/message/59148 > > > > > > > > Bottomline is recent mixes sound too "muddy" irrespective of the > > > monitors I > > > > have used for hearing the CD's. I will post my observations on GF > > > once I get > > > > hold of the CD and do some hearing and spectral analysis. > > > > > > > > <Technical crap coming through> > > > > > > > > For the curious minds, I have few commercial and hand written tools > > > which > > > > would go through audio data and plot frequency spectrogram, there by > > > giving > > > > us an idea of how different elements in a mix fight with each other > > > for > > > > attention. It can be used to fine tune final mixes. Even with these > > > gizmos > > > > my mixes sometimes sound crappy, oh well, that is where talent comes > > > in, I > > > > guess... > > > > > > > > In case of Aah Aah and MP, there was so much activity going on the > > > mid > > > > frequencies which was not the case with say "Dil Se" or my favorite > > > "Thiruda > > > > Thiruda". I cannot say whether it is right or wrong, but it sure > > > does sound > > > > different. My theory is that it is directly/indirectly related to > > > the new > > > > Neve console being used. > > > > > > > > </Technical crap end> > > > > > > > > Pros can voice in their opinion. > > > > -- > > > > :: Bharath > > > > http://singingphotons.net > > > > > > > > On 2/25/06, up84mouli <up84mouli@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Fanz, > > > > > > > > > > This (Issues regarding Quality of CDs) seems to be true to an > > > > > extent...at least for casual listeners. > > > > > > > > > > I have a viewpoint for this. My understanding is that ARR used > > > (let us > > > > > assume) a 40 : 60% ratio of Live : Simulated instrumentation. The > > > > > reason is that either the instruments were costly or unavailable > > > in > > > > > India, which explains why others didn't even think of it and also > > > > > explains why Rahman sounded "generationally" different than > > > others. > > > > > > > > > > He gradually turned the ratio on its head and now is using more > > > and > > > > > more live instrumentations and stuff. > > > > > > > > > > So, the ambience may be different. For normal users (like me) it > > > > > sounds different I guess... > > > > > > > > > > If you take albums like AP or KKKK, you will find any given song > > > to > > > > > have more focus, sharper beats, less diffusion in instrumentation, > > > > > well defined solos and all that... > > > > > > > > > > But listen to something like Boys, you will see some diffusion (I > > > dont > > > > > know how it is on high-end stereos and 4+ speaker setups) and the > > > > > "punchy" sounds will not be as good as (say) Kadhalan or Jeans. > > > > > > > > > > The best comparisons would be with Zubeidaa (I feel the "sound" > > > this > > > > > has is like Unparalleled) and many others Dil Se, and many others > > > in > > > > > that time period. > > > > > > > > > > Disclaimer: > > > > > This is just my view. I dont know anything about Music or how the > > > > > Recording works. 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