Gopal thanks for the clarification. But still, somehow I fail to see how this 'directly' related to Rahman. Albeit, he did have long hair then, and did have delays with producers -- this comment to me seems generic.
I think here the frustration on JL's side is that inspite of coming up with good melodies, they haven't ever been acknowledged as No 1 yet. Their point of argument is that they don't change appearances (in today's world - Himesh) and they don't create fake arrogances (in today's world - Himesh, yet again) -- to create the impression of greatness. I have read various articles where JL have acknowledged Rahman's music and its greatness. So, I think this article / quote is totally out of context. More over, I also fail to see the need of bringing such cynicism to the group that should be more focused on great music, and Rahman. Am I wrong in expecting that? -Ricky --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I guess what people are taking offense to, are these lines > > "Just because we don't wear our hair long and keep producers > waiting > > outside our door we haven't been acknowledged as No 1 yet," the > > brothers complain rightaway, and then assert, "But our music speaks" > > for itself. We're the best." > and not their assertion that KKHH sold more than Dil Se.., which it indeed did. > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Ricky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 7:39:31 PM > Subject: [arr] Re: Highlighted are J-L's digs at ARR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What cynicism exists in this group! How can one be so judgemental? > > > > Essentially what Jatin Lalit are saying is that their album KKHH sold > > more copies than Dil Se. First of all, those were the facts. And > > secondly, they are not belittling the music of Dil Se at all! In > > fact, it shows that the current phase of music listening is wired to > > listen more to 'entertainment' music than 'classic' music. > > > > I have grown tired of people putting down other music-director' s > > music, implying that only Rahman can create good music. Of course, I > > believe with all of Rahman fans, that he is the best. But, even > > Rahman appreciates good music by other people. The focus should be on > > good music, not on rebelling against non-Rahman music. > > > > Jatin Lalit have been praised by even Rahman at times, as having > > their own original style of music. Kuch Kuch Hota Hai till date > > remains one of the most popular love songs of this generation. Pehla > > nasha, all songs from DDLJ, Khamoshi, Ghulam, Sarfaroosh, Chalte > > Chalte, Yes Boss, and all the way to Fannah -- they have some > > impressive line up of gems. And something JL really brought to > > Bollywood was the youth feel combined with RDBurman touches, to > > provide very up-beat and feel good music. And as far as the genre of > > marriage numbers is concerned, Jatin Lalit do take the cake with > > bringing in a new dimension to that. > > > > It is indeed unfortunate for Bollywood to have lost this talented duo > > to personal conflicts. However, lets not forget their contribution to > > good music. > > > > -Ricky > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, "rk_rathinam" <rk_rathinam@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Look at happened to these people (Jatin-Lalit) who spoke ill of AR > > > Rahman...their music speaks for itself, it seems...today they both > > > are not in speaking terms...LOL. ..just kidding... > > > > > > > > > > > > THE HIT MEN > > > Jatin-Lalit stake their claim to fame > > > > > > Sangeeta Mahadevan > > > > > > The mood's militant. And why not? After all Jatin-Lalit have > > > composed the music for five hits this year - Pyaar Kiya To Darna > > > Kya, Jab Pyaar Kisise Hota Hai, Ghulam, Pyaar To Hona Hi Tha and > > > Kuch Kuch Hota Hai. > > > "Just because we don't wear our hair long and keep producers > > waiting > > > outside our door we haven't been acknowledged as No 1 yet," the > > > brothers complain rightaway, and then assert, "But our music speaks > > > for itself. We're the best." At this very moment, Jatin-Lalit are > > in > > > the midst of finalising tunes for Aditya Chopra's next, which is > > > scheduled to start some time in February-March' 99. And they've also > > > been signed on for Shah Rukh Khan-Juhi Chawla's joint production, > > > for which they've just recorded a song. Patting themselves on their > > > back, the duo says, "Every TV channel has our title song for Kuch > > > Kuch Hota Hai. Some months ago, Aati kya Khandala from Ghulam > > almost > > > became the national anthem. Apparently tourism in Khandala has gone > > > up by 30 per cent after the song." They assent to the fact that the > > > songs of Kuch Kuch Hota Hai picked up only after the film's > > > release. "That's because the songs are situational. People had to > > > see the film for the music to grow on them," says Jatin. "However > > we > > > knew we had a major hit on our hands, because at the premiere > > > itself, we got a standing ovation from the industry. Check with the > > > music distributors. Kuch Kuch albums have sold more than AR > > Rahman's > > > Dil Se." > > > > > > Jatin-Lalit both see red when I point out that Karan Johar and his > > > buddies made a major contribution to the music of KKHH. News is > > that > > > the popular title track is actually a tune conceived by actor Jugal > > > Hunsraj. "No one can take away the entire credit due to us," the > > duo > > > retort. "We admit that Jugal did contribute a little to the title > > > song but the entire tune is not his." > > > > > > Evading the topic, they emphasise that they've delivered with the > > > other flicks of the year. "We also came up with excellent music for > > > Khamoshi and Yes Boss," they stress. "If we were flukes then we > > > couldn't have fooled the industry for so long. Really it's so very > > > frustrating to justify one's worth to the media. Just because we > > > don't scream from the rooftops about how good we are, you guys > > don't > > > take us seriously." The duo have also just completed work on Kundan > > > Shah's Loveria, Sanjay Chhel's Khubsoorat, John Mathew's Sarfarosh > > > and Sunny Deol's Dillagi. Wonder whose idea it was to rope in Aamir > > > Khan to sing for Ghulam and Jatin-Lalit say, "It was Vikram Bhatt's > > > idea. On our way to Film City one day Aamir sang a number which he > > > wooed his wife Reena with. We asked him to give playback for Aati > > > kya Khandala because there was so much emotion and warmth in his > > > voice. But even we couldn't have imagined that the song would > > become > > > so popular." > > > > > > The composers have been composing music mainly for the movies of > > > Shah Rukh, Aamir and Salman. "But that doesn't mean that we don't > > > give our best for Ajay Devgan, Sanjay Dutt or Sunny Deol," they > > > insist. "Music doesn't know any barriers. A good tune just happens. > > > Even if we tried, we couldn't do a Khamoshi again. Every song in > > the > > > film was memorable.' They're staunch RD Burman fans. "It's sad that > > > the industry didn't give him his due in the last few years of his > > > life," Lalit laments. "I wish Panchamda had been around when 1942-A > > > Love Story was released. Its music still haunts us." "We don't > > > believe in imposing our favourites on producers like some other > > > composers do," Lalit thunders. "Jatin sings extremely well. He's > > > even bringing out a private album as a singer. But we don't force > > > film-makers to use Jatin's voice. Our sister Vijayeta sings > > > beautifully, too. > > > > > > She even does her riyaaz regularly. Yet we don't force producers to > > > give her songs." And what about badi didi Sulakshana? Talk is that > > > she's out of work...and is upset by the fact that even her own > > > brothers haven't stood by her? "Sulakshana has lost her touch," > > says > > > Lalit. "As brothers, we'd like to help her out. But we cannot harm > > > our career by insisting on her. "We're cool with everyone," they > > > say, mentioning the names of Udit Narayan, Abhijeet, Alka Yagnik > > and > > > Kavita Krishnamurthy in quick succession. "And we do as we're told > > > by the film-makers. " Right on. > > > > > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Gopal Srinivasan > > > <catchgops@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Group, just check out the dig(highlighted - bold, underlined and > > > italicised) > > > > that Jatin-Lalit have made at ARR in the following > > > > interview to Filmfare. 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