Yes i totally agree with you that today all the other music directors are
exactly a xerox of ARR (infact color xerox), so it is difficult to maintain the
orginality. For that reason ARR has to do lot of hardwork, infact he is doing
more than his 100%.
I don't understand one thing, if he tries something new you people say ARR is
lost his magic, and he doesn't do that you people say its resembles like his
previous compositions bla bla... comon guys grow up...
Regards
S.Sunder
----- Original Message ----
From: jamshid TC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 28 January, 2008 9:21:13 AM
Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Can someone define "living up to ARR's own standards"?
For that matter i cried once when i was listening to Lukka chuppi from rang de
basanti and "yeh jo des hei tear" in some other occation
One important thing what chord mentioned in his earlier mail. When rahman came
he introduced a new type of music to the people in india.His style was totally
diffrent from the contemporary music directors that time .So everything he
delievred that time was something people got to experince diffrent from others.
and then we know , he set that trend and somany people followed his school.That
time people could listen to a song and tell that its that "new guy's song" .
While today its gone.its tough to diffrentiate for a non-rahman fan :-).
apart from this aspect as chord said , for me rahman's standard of music
composition
has improved a lot from those days.I feel rahman can easily deliver a
"raakkozhi randum muzhichirukku" or " pennalla pennalla" even now but it won't
stand apart . But rahman with what he was that time i don't expect a "yeh jo
des hei tera" or "khalbali " from him.
I would say ,that time he could just deliver the gifted talent he got and it
got easily accepted and stood apart. where as today, he is putting immense hard
work on top of his gifts to stand apart.
-Jamshid
--- On Sun, 1/27/08, shanavas.chemmamkuz hi <shanavas.chemmamkuz [EMAIL
PROTECTED] com> wrote:
From: shanavas.chemmamkuz hi <shanavas.chemmamkuz [EMAIL PROTECTED] com>
Subject: [arr] Re: Can someone define "living up to ARR's own standards"?
To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, January 27, 2008, 7:34 PM
I used to cry when i listen to "Porale ponnuthayi" from Karithamma
and "Ye ajnabi" from Dil se. Pure magic!!
I want the same magic back in Rahman music.I dont care Subash k jha
or Joginder tuteja or any other so called critics, but i want all of
them criticize Rahman now.
WHAT IS THE PROBLEM IN PUSHING AN ARTIST WHO IS CAPABLE TO DELIVER
EXTRA-ORDINARY MUSIC.
fyi : Criticism is not new to AR. One south indian magazine called
him "one film wonder" in Genteman review..But AR prove them wrong.
Regards
Shanavas
--- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, "Chord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .> wrote:
>
> I think it's a matter of taste, nothing more. I'm all for
specific
> constructive criticism within reason. To hear "Rahman not living
up
> to his own standards" for every fricking release of his nowadays
is
> not within reason for me. Ok, there are some fans not as happy
with
> Rahman's music today compared to the past. Of course they have a
> right to express what they feel. I have to accept that as THEIR
> OPINION, not a fact. Disappointed with the music for such and
such
> reason? Fine with me. Didn't like the song for such and such
> reason? Ok! Rahman's not as good as he used to be? That's not
> getting past me!
>
> You mentioned hardly any songs unliked in Rahman's earlier days.
Be
> careful of confounding variables including novelty, change in
sound,
> music scene, music taste. Judging Rahman's music certainly
requires
> an examination of the predominant music scene and most certainly,
> Rahman's music STOOD OUT more in his early days than today. To
me,
> that doesn't make his music from that time period superior or a
> fulcrum by which to judge subsequent soundtracks. IMO if you
asked
> Rahman himself whether his music has worsened over time or if he's
> not living up to his own standards from the past, I think he would
> scoff and say, of course not.. He sets the standard for himself
each
> time he releases an album for better or for worse. I''m sure he
has
> his favorites, but I'm pretty sure he would be just as proud or
> critical of his music back then as today. Yes, I agree, his songs
> have become more situational, but films too have become more
specific
> in theme in content with diverse storylines demanding different
types
> of music from Rahman. Rahman is more selective today too.
>
> I'm in my 30s. I'm a relatively late oncomer to Rahman's music
(mid
> 90s) but I enjoy all his music from day 1 to now. I view him as a
> progressive artist who is maturing at every step and willing to
> experiment, even if all his experiments are not appreciated by the
> masses or his fans. I am just as critical of his music from Roja
to
> Jodha Akbar and not all his music is appreciated by me. In fact,
I
> find some of his music from his early days extremely radical and
hard
> to reach, far from appealing emotionally, although admittedly
> brilliant on a left brain level. Yes, some of his best work IMO is
> from his early days, but I also find some of his best work from
> recent soundtracks too!
>
>
>
>
> --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, "Ranojoy" <khushiyan2001@ >
> wrote:
> >
> > Let me try to explain. For the first 5 years, between 1992 and
> 1996,
> > almost none of the people here or ANYWHERE will be able to find
5 A
> R
> > songs that they didn't like. Out of 25-30 albums. That's a high
> > standard. Every phrase, every intro, every verse is astounding
from
> > that period. In Guru, the first interlude from Barso Re is
> phenomenal
> > and no other composer is capable of that kind of music, and many
> fans
> > think that A R is capable of sustaining that sort of quality
over
> the
> > length of the entire album, which may or may not happen because
the
> > songs are extremely situational nowadays.
> > It is RIDICULOUS for anyone here to say that one cannot
criticize
> this
> > aspect of Rahman's music or that, because there are many many
fans
> who
> > have been there since the first song of A R R ever aired and
before,
> > and have a right to express their feelings.
> > I am curious to know how old some of you are, because there
seems to
> > be a generational gap developing in this group :)
> >
> > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, "Chord" <purevibz@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I hear this phrase over and over and over in reviews. What
does
> that
> > > mean exactly? Is it purely subjective or are there elements
of
> > > Rahman's best works that can be operationalized? If ARR is a
> > > progressive artist who doesn't stick to formulas, what exactly
> are his
> > > standards that people expect him to adhere to album after
album?
> > >
> > > I think it's the same dilemma for all suuccessful artists.
You
> take
> > > rock bands from the west, you hear so many comments about how
> their
> > > earlier works outshine later works. "Oh, this group's music
back
> in
> > > the 70s was so much better than their work now". Their own
> success
> > > haunts them down the road, if they let it.
> > >
> > > Let's take JA. If you want to compare elements of JA to his
most
> > > highly rated soundtracks of the past, there is good melody,
> amazing
> > > musicianship, crystal clear sound, beautiful ornamentation and
> > > attention to musical detail, haunting chords ahd harmonies,
> catchy
> > > rhythms, and innovativeness.
> > >
> > > So, what's the problem? I get the feeling that no matter how
> > > objectively good an ARR soundtrack will be, there will ALWAYS
be
> folks
> > > who say the phrase above. And I guarantee you that these same
> folks
> > > would say he is repetitive if Rahman were indeed to go back to
> the Dil
> > > Se or Taal mode or whatever mode they wish for.
> > >
> >
>
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