Completely 100% agree with you, Ranojoy. Thank you.
--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Ranojoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yea I got that :) I would have them on my list too.. Completely > strange vocals (other than the style) in some songs, although in > Arari Ariraro (Karuthamma) and Thirupachi Arivale (Taj Mahal) he > makes it work! > To Chord and others, of course A R R still makes excellent music. > That was not being disputed here. All I was doing was answering your > question of "A R R living up to his standards (or not)." > I do also believe that A R R built a fan-base based on his early 90s > music, and he must be true to the aspect of his music that is not > reliant on technology (the untouchable, abstract). In the name of > innovativeness, he cannot isolate the fan base completely. He doesn't > go back to his earlier work, but he has to go back within himself and > stay honest to that. And I believe he does that, and because of this, > although SEL's jazz sounds like jazz, A R's jazz still sounds > Rahmanesque. > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Vijay Iyer" > <vijay.mohan.iyer@> wrote: > > > > the 3 tracks i ve listed are in reference to the 5 u said are > difficult to > > LIKE > > > > On Jan 28, 2008 2:42 AM, Vijay Iyer <vijay.mohan.iyer@> wrote: > > > > > Hey Rano, i definitely do agree to the 'generation' gap > here........whoa > > > !! and to think the only generation gap was between elders who > used to > > > listen to MSV and others and us lot who rediscovered film music > with A R > > > R......a lot of people who have tuned in to A R R s music should > go back > > > and listen to ALL his stuff between 92 and 97........ > > > > > > I tried hard to replay all the songs in my mind and came up with > these 3 > > > for now......PAROTA PAROTA from Vandi Cholai Chinrasu, YEDUKU > PONDATI from > > > Keezaku Cheemayile and KOKU SAIDE KOKU from Muthu.........all 3 > are very > > > very situational but very very 'different'......there was a phase > where > > > moviemakers and lyricists tried to overdo the jeans pant baggy > pant bit > > > (started from gentleman and then hit the pits with the track onu > rendu moona > > > da.......from pudhiya manargal...notice the 1st stanza where the > words jeans > > > and baggy are used and the tune seems so completely in > contrast !) and also > > > overdose of elderly voices (again started from roja and then the > track in > > > muthu which ive mentioned above....)..... > > > > > > On a different note, i ve been literally humming IN LAMHON KE > > > DAMAN......from jodhaa and accidentally slipped into the > interlude of SITIRA > > > NILAVU from Vandi Cholai......if someone could mix and match and > cut and > > > paste, id love to hear how it would sound...me thinks it would > fit perfectly > > > atleast before the stanza where Madhushree starts off........ > > > > > > -Vijay > > > > > > On Jan 27, 2008 11:12 AM, Ranojoy <khushiyan2001@> wrote: > > > > > > > Let me try to explain. For the first 5 years, between 1992 > and 1996, > > > > almost none of the people here or ANYWHERE will be able to find > 5 A R > > > > songs that they didn't like. Out of 25-30 albums. That's a high > > > > standard. Every phrase, every intro, every verse is astounding > from > > > > that period. In Guru, the first interlude from Barso Re is > phenomenal > > > > and no other composer is capable of that kind of music, and > many fans > > > > think that A R is capable of sustaining that sort of quality > over the > > > > length of the entire album, which may or may not happen because > the > > > > songs are extremely situational nowadays. > > > > It is RIDICULOUS for anyone here to say that one cannot > criticize this > > > > aspect of Rahman's music or that, because there are many many > fans who > > > > have been there since the first song of A R R ever aired and > before, > > > > and have a right to express their feelings. > > > > I am curious to know how old some of you are, because there > seems to > > > > be a generational gap developing in this group :) > > > > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com <arrahmanfans% > 40yahoogroups.com>, > > > > "Chord" <purevibz@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I hear this phrase over and over and over in reviews. What > does that > > > > > mean exactly? Is it purely subjective or are there elements of > > > > > Rahman's best works that can be operationalized? If ARR is a > > > > > progressive artist who doesn't stick to formulas, what > exactly are his > > > > > > > > > standards that people expect him to adhere to album after > album? > > > > > > > > > > I think it's the same dilemma for all suuccessful artists. > You take > > > > > rock bands from the west, you hear so many comments about how > their > > > > > earlier works outshine later works. "Oh, this group's music > back in > > > > > the 70s was so much better than their work now". Their own > success > > > > > haunts them down the road, if they let it. > > > > > > > > > > Let's take JA. If you want to compare elements of JA to his > most > > > > > highly rated soundtracks of the past, there is good melody, > amazing > > > > > musicianship, crystal clear sound, beautiful ornamentation and > > > > > attention to musical detail, haunting chords ahd harmonies, > catchy > > > > > rhythms, and innovativeness. > > > > > > > > > > So, what's the problem? I get the feeling that no matter how > > > > > objectively good an ARR soundtrack will be, there will ALWAYS > be folks > > > > > > > > > who say the phrase above. And I guarantee you that these same > folks > > > > > would say he is repetitive if Rahman were indeed to go back > to the Dil > > > > > > > > > Se or Taal mode or whatever mode they wish for. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >