Completely 100% agree with you, Ranojoy.  Thank you.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Ranojoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Yea I got that :) I would have them on my list too.. Completely 
> strange vocals (other than the style) in some songs, although in 
> Arari Ariraro (Karuthamma) and Thirupachi Arivale (Taj Mahal) he 
> makes it work!
> To Chord and others, of course A R R still makes excellent music. 
> That was not being disputed here. All I was doing was answering 
your 
> question of "A R R living up to his standards (or not)."
> I do also believe that A R R built a fan-base based on his early 
90s 
> music, and he must be true to the aspect of his music that is not 
> reliant on technology (the untouchable, abstract). In the name of 
> innovativeness, he cannot isolate the fan base completely. He 
doesn't 
> go back to his earlier work, but he has to go back within himself 
and 
> stay honest to that. And I believe he does that, and because of 
this, 
> although SEL's jazz sounds like jazz, A R's jazz still sounds 
> Rahmanesque.
> 
> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Vijay Iyer" 
> <vijay.mohan.iyer@> wrote:
> >
> > the 3 tracks i ve listed are in reference to the 5 u said are 
> difficult to
> > LIKE
> > 
> > On Jan 28, 2008 2:42 AM, Vijay Iyer <vijay.mohan.iyer@> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hey Rano, i definitely do agree to the 'generation' gap 
> here........whoa
> > > !! and to think the only generation gap was between elders who 
> used to
> > > listen to MSV and others and us lot who rediscovered film music 
> with A R
> > > R......a lot of people who have tuned in to  A R R s music 
should 
> go back
> > > and listen to ALL his stuff between 92 and 97........
> > >
> > > I tried hard to replay all the songs in my mind and came up 
with 
> these 3
> > > for now......PAROTA PAROTA from Vandi Cholai Chinrasu, YEDUKU 
> PONDATI from
> > > Keezaku Cheemayile and KOKU SAIDE KOKU from Muthu.........all 3 
> are very
> > > very situational but very very 'different'......there was a 
phase 
> where
> > > moviemakers and lyricists tried to overdo the jeans pant baggy 
> pant bit
> > > (started from gentleman and then hit the pits with the track 
onu 
> rendu moona
> > > da.......from pudhiya manargal...notice the 1st stanza where 
the 
> words jeans
> > > and baggy are used and the tune seems so completely in 
> contrast !) and also
> > > overdose of elderly voices (again started from roja and then 
the 
> track in
> > > muthu which ive mentioned above....).....
> > >
> > > On a different note, i ve been literally humming IN LAMHON KE
> > > DAMAN......from jodhaa and accidentally slipped into the 
> interlude of SITIRA
> > > NILAVU from Vandi Cholai......if someone could mix and match 
and 
> cut and
> > > paste, id love to hear how it would sound...me thinks it would 
> fit perfectly
> > > atleast before the stanza where Madhushree starts off........
> > >
> > > -Vijay
> > >
> > >   On Jan 27, 2008 11:12 AM, Ranojoy <khushiyan2001@> wrote:
> > >
> > > >   Let me try to explain. For the first 5 years, between 1992 
> and 1996,
> > > > almost none of the people here or ANYWHERE will be able to 
find 
> 5 A R
> > > > songs that they didn't like. Out of 25-30 albums. That's a 
high
> > > > standard. Every phrase, every intro, every verse is 
astounding 
> from
> > > > that period. In Guru, the first interlude from Barso Re is 
> phenomenal
> > > > and no other composer is capable of that kind of music, and 
> many fans
> > > > think that A R is capable of sustaining that sort of quality 
> over the
> > > > length of the entire album, which may or may not happen 
because 
> the
> > > > songs are extremely situational nowadays.
> > > > It is RIDICULOUS for anyone here to say that one cannot 
> criticize this
> > > > aspect of Rahman's music or that, because there are many many 
> fans who
> > > > have been there since the first song of A R R ever aired and 
> before,
> > > > and have a right to express their feelings.
> > > > I am curious to know how old some of you are, because there 
> seems to
> > > > be a generational gap developing in this group :)
> > > >
> > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com <arrahmanfans%
> 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > > "Chord" <purevibz@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I hear this phrase over and over and over in reviews. What 
> does that
> > > > > mean exactly? Is it purely subjective or are there elements 
of
> > > > > Rahman's best works that can be operationalized? If ARR is a
> > > > > progressive artist who doesn't stick to formulas, what 
> exactly are his
> > > >
> > > > > standards that people expect him to adhere to album after 
> album?
> > > > >
> > > > > I think it's the same dilemma for all suuccessful artists. 
> You take
> > > > > rock bands from the west, you hear so many comments about 
how 
> their
> > > > > earlier works outshine later works. "Oh, this group's music 
> back in
> > > > > the 70s was so much better than their work now". Their own 
> success
> > > > > haunts them down the road, if they let it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Let's take JA. If you want to compare elements of JA to his 
> most
> > > > > highly rated soundtracks of the past, there is good melody, 
> amazing
> > > > > musicianship, crystal clear sound, beautiful ornamentation 
and
> > > > > attention to musical detail, haunting chords ahd harmonies, 
> catchy
> > > > > rhythms, and innovativeness.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, what's the problem? I get the feeling that no matter how
> > > > > objectively good an ARR soundtrack will be, there will 
ALWAYS 
> be folks
> > > >
> > > > > who say the phrase above. And I guarantee you that these 
same 
> folks
> > > > > would say he is repetitive if Rahman were indeed to go back 
> to the Dil
> > > >
> > > > > Se or Taal mode or whatever mode they wish for.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>


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