Dude ! this is a forum where most prefer to put their thought process by
posting. Where is the question of words like View, Judgement, Ideas, Opinion. I
cannot cheat myself by trying to justify a meaning in different terms. No one
can judge other's opinion or no one can force others to realize, their view
point is either partly fair or unfair. You first make a new topic, out of your
own judgement. Many like chord, dinesh vaidya, pravinder, gomsy etc. are
intelligent in their posts. So they do not need to be super intelligent to see
others with lack of getting at it. If all is going to abide by one's view, then
this forum will be of fake. If people want votings according to their desires,
let us satisfy their wants. As an arr fan, i can give up. It is not a big deal.
The question is when arr album releases we all getting into words like awesome,
O'some, rocking.
After some months, people start finding some mistakes which is against their
own posts. Then we get into comparisons & votings across regions & not with
same genre movies & within same language, (so without fair analysis) without
bothering about others. Hope everyone has their preference & acceptance which
is what reflects here & not judging any opinion. We are placing our ideas. Let
this forum reflect oneness in hailing arr's music than pulling others into
words & they wait to see what happens. Some say they are for arr's music only
& say they are beyond regions but do not maintain it surprisingly with word
play.
Regards Pavan
Yuva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I think the day is not too far that ARR will get nominated(not just
shortlisted) for Oscars - then i am sure that you will doubt about
Oscars(biased towards ARR)
--- In [email protected], Gomzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Fani
>
> Let me explain. Before that please reread Chord's mail. I dont see him
> "criticising" arr anywhere in his post.
> Hence I can easily term your mail as "unintelligent".
>
> If you have been following Chord's mails from a long time, you will know
> what I mean. And it feels authentic when someone
> who literally worships arr can write such a post. It takes guts
and a real
> passion to do that. And since I was
> thinking on similar lines supported it. Cheers :)
>
>
> On 2/27/08, fani kalyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Can anyone explain what exactly "intelligent posts" mean and
why the
> > term is used only when crticising ARR's work or when someone is not
> > satisfied with his work?!
> >
> >
> > --- On *Wed, 2/27/08, Chord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
> >
> > From: Chord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [arr] ARR and awards
> > To: [email protected]
> > Date: Wednesday, February 27, 2008, 7:23 AM
> >
> > It's not his viewpoint that I take argument with. It's his
> > judgemental attitude. Anyway, not worth wasting my time about this or
> > caring what anyone says.
> >
> > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
<arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > Gomzy <gomtesh.upadhye@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Too bad. please take such intelligent posts in a healthy way. Its
> > just his
> > > viewpoint, and he is not forcing you to agree, just what you think.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2/27/08, Chord <purevibz@ .> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If you are referring to me making ten good posts and one
bitter post
> > > > according to your definition, I'm sorry to offend. I only
expressed
> > > > my point of view, not to please anyone here. It's not a bitter
post,
> > > > it's my expression of thought. I thought I could do this without
> > > > being judged, but I guess I was wrong. I will think twice next
time
> > > > before attempting to start an intelligent discussion around
here since
> > > > there are just too many here who take things too personally.
Please
> > > > disregard my above post and count me out of discussions
henceforth.
> > > >
> > > > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
<arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <arrahmanfans% 40yahoogroups. com>, arr
> > > > pavan <arrpavan@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I dont mean to offend anyone but how is it possible for some
to make
> > > > 10 good posts & one bitter post that washes away those 10
posts. For
> > > > them, their own words are gone after some weeks ! Why they
maintain
> > > > double standards ! Imho Ay Hairathe, Tere bina & that bgm song are
> > > > those three which are quite unique to choose ARR for all awards of
> > > > best music, best bg score & best singer. He missed best singer
award.
> > > > I though what ARR missed in yeh jo des song will take in tere
bina.
> > > > Ok. God thinks other way. Men of patience will rule the world.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards Pavan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Moin Ali <moinboss4zap@ > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Well said Anil, fully agree.
> > > > >
> > > > > ARR rules!
> > > > >
> > > > > Anil Nair <rhythmcalls@ > wrote:
> > > > > Chord ...
> > > > > If they had been biased - wouldn't ARR also have won the "Best
> > > > > Singer" too?
> > > > >
> > > > > While I agree that Filmare is more a popular choice award rather
> > > > > than "the real thing" is some cases - in ARR's case there is
no such
> > > > > question.
> > > > >
> > > > > Omkara and Taare Zameen Par - both whilst great music albums
aren't
> > > > > something that clicked with the masses in entirety - purely
due to
> > > > > their themes (i mean the movie subject). The movies by
itself might
> > > > > have done wonders but the music ...it was sections of people who
> > > > > liked sections of the album.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thats what the difference is with a Guru or a RDB. Even though I
> > wont
> > > > > say it was a 100% success with one n all ...it was still
much better
> > > > > received by people. Add to that the movie themes ..again
populist
> > > > > themes ...
> > > > >
> > > > > Beyond that obviously the repeat quality and the lasting
effect. I
> > > > > don't seem to recall Omkara songs still being played often in
> > > > > gatherings etc ...I do still hear RDB though ....
> > > > >
> > > > > Last but not least ...simply speaking ..there is no match to
> > > > > Rahman ....no comparison and absoutely no doubt that where
> > > > > stands ...he stands tall ...infact the tallest ...Filmfare
> > > > > acknowledging it barely stands testimony to that :-))
> > > > >
> > > > > -A
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups.
com<arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <arrahmanfans% 40yahoogroups. com>,
> > > > "Chord" <purevibz@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm not really disputing Guru's deserving of awards as much as
> > > > > > filmfare's notoriety for being biased and selective, as has
> > been the
> > > > > > case many a times in the past as well. Many having issues with
> > > > > > filmfare is no secret.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups.
com<arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <arrahmanfans% 40yahoogroups. com>,
> > > > Gopal Srinivasan <catchgops@>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Guru has won every music composition award at every award
> > event it
> > > > > > was competing in, why blame Filmfare only?-
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Filmfare:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best
> > > > > > > Music - Guru (Hindi, 2008) Best Background Score - Guru
> > > > > > > (Hindi, 2008)
> > > > > > > Screen:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best
> > > > > > > Music - Guru (Hindi, 2008) Best Background Score - Guru
> > > > > > > (Hindi, 2008)
> > > > > > > Bollywood International Film Awards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best
> > > > > > > Music - Guru (Hindi, 2008)
> > > > > > > V. Shantaram Film Awards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best Music - Guru (Hindi, 2008)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > > > > > From: Chord <purevibz@>
> > > > > > > To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups.
com<arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <arrahmanfans% 40yahoogroups. com>
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 1:18:46 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: [arr] ARR and awards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > DISCLAIMER: Please do not interpret any of my
> > > > > > comments below as being
> > > > > > > anti ARR. I worhship the Boss and his music!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Happy for ARR and for us fans that he won the filmfare
for both
> > > > > music
> > > > > > > and BGM for Guru! There are no doubts that ARR's
achievements
> > > > > are
> > > > > > > award worthy!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > However, I want to separate myself from the fan part of
myself
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > think about the relationship between ARR and filmfare.
ARR has
> > > > > won
> > > > > > > many filmfare awards, in fact the most out of anyone! No
doubt,
> > > > > most
> > > > > > > of these awards are deserving. Let's face it, his music
is THE
> > > > > BEST
> > > > > > > period overall. However, when it comes to the most
recent Hindi
> > > > > > > soundtracks, Guru and RDB, I'm not quite certain that they
> > > > > deserve to
> > > > > > > be winners, from a purely musical and impactful standpoint.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2006 - RDB won - not only in filmfare, but in other award
> > > > > > > ceremonies. Yes, RDB was a huge hit for movie and music. Was
> > > > > RDB
> > > > > > > the best music of 2006? Not in my opinion. Omkara was the
> > > > > best.
> > > > > > > Even ARR himself admitted that Omkara was his favorite.
I think
> > > > > > > Omkara won with the critics.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2007 - Guru won. Guru had some mindblowing songs, some
of ARR's
> > > > > best
> > > > > > > work, but it also had relatively mediocre numbers like Baazi
> > Laga
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > Ek Lo. IMO, the best soundtrack of 2007 was Taare Zameen Par
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > Guru a very close second. Did Guru have the best BGM?
Granted,
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > was brilliant, but IMO, Eklavya had a better BGM score.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The question has to come up: Is filmfare biased towards
Rahman?
> > > > > > > Maybe. Does the filmfare award for best music really
represent
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > best album? Not always. It's the case with a lot of awards.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Many people have issues with filmfare in both
directions. Yes, I
> > > > > > > love it that ARR won two years in a row. As a fan, I
couldn't be
> > > > > > > more happy to see him recognized. Guru deserves to be
recognized
> > > > > as
> > > > > > > an outstanding soundtrack and the public response to it
has been
> > > > > > > superb. Albums are supposed to be awarded by votes, so I
guess,
> > > > > Guru
> > > > > > > won because the public demanded it. I'm thrilled. But,
I'm not
> > > > > > > exactly convinced that this was purely a gentry-elective
> > > > > process.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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