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On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 2:19 AM, showket <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi friends, > Hope all of u r fine... > > I need the BGM of Guru & The Legend of Bhaghat Singh. > Can anyone provide me some link 4 download??? > > Please guys help me... > > Thanks > showket > > --- KrishnA <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <crishna3%40gmail.com>> wrote: > > > Hi all > > > > As kaissiom said, first we have to make a list of > > movies which need to be > > ripped (for the purpose of BGMs), so in this regard, > > I have made a list, but > > I am very skeptical about the legitimacy of that, so > > all guys are requested > > to update it for further purpose. > > > > Thanks > > Krishna. > > > > > > On 2/19/08, kaissiom <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <kaissiom%40yahoo.com>> wrote: > > > > > > Voiceless BGMs - Explained! > > > > > > I'm not much of any expert on this topic, as I > > happened to accidentally or > > > unintentionally discover the process of ripping > > voiceless BGMs. There may > > > be members on this group who have expertise in > > this area who may be able to > > > shed some more light on this topic. Following > > article is my limited > > > understanding of this subject, please correct me > > if I am wrong. > > > > > > First, some definitions: > > > * For the sake of discussion *L* refers to *Left* > > and *R* refers to *Right > > > * (speakers) > > > > > > *Mono*: Single channel (no difference in L or R > > speaker, both reproduce > > > one sound) > > > *L speaker = R speaker = One sound from both.* > > > *[Note]: Rahman has been very disappointed that > > 'Kabhi Na Kabhi' was > > > recorded in stereo, but released in Mono.* > > > > > > *Stereo:* Two or more channels (generally two > > channel, separate > > > recording/reproduction of sound, L and R) > > > *L speaker: recorded/reproduced separately > > > + R speaker: recorded/reproduced separately > > > = 3 different sounds possible: L sound + Shared > > L/R sound + R sound* > > > *[Note]: Think of it as a Venn diagram: Both L and > > R speakers reproduce > > > same sound most of the time, but will also have > > variations of their own. > > > Quite evident in 'Daud' - Title track, the entire > > track has variations in > > > Left and Right channel.* > > > > > > *Stereo Surround*: 5.1 or higher (5 channels plus > > 1 LFE; > > > Dolby-Digital,dts) > > > *L Front speaker: recorded/reproduced separately > > > +R Front speaker: recorded/reproduced separately > > > +C Center speaker: recorded/reproduced separately > > > +L Rear speaker: recorded/reproduced separately > > > +R Rear speaker: recorded/reproduced separately > > > +LFE Low-Frequency Effects(sub-woofer) > > > = Surround Sound experience.* > > > *[Note]: Most, but not all, DVD-Videos have 5.1 > > surround sound. And also > > > the rare, but dying, DVD-Audio format falls in > > this category.* > > > > > > There's no limitation on the number of channels, I > > find some English > > > movies with 7.1 surround sound , you can also buy > > a 10.1 sound systems, if > > > you can find source to utilize those channels. > > > > > > Almost all Media formats can reproduce mono and > > stereo, but not surround: > > > Cassette tapes: Stereo and Mono > > > CD: Stereo and Mono > > > VCD: Stereo and Mono > > > *DVD: Surround*, Stereo and Mono > > > > > > *How does this relate to voiceless BGMs?* > > > Voiceless BGMs are only possible from surround > > sound, given that they were > > > recorded and reproduce as surround. So, that > > leaves us with DVD-Audio, > > > which I won't get into, and DVD-Video, by which we > > mean regular DVD movies. > > > * > > > How are BGMs recorded on DVDs?* > > > I don't know exactly, but that's up to the > > composer and the sound > > > engineer. But in order to qualify as surround > > sound, they have to record > > > different sounds for different channels. For > > example they may record actors' > > > voices for the CENTER channel and the background > > score for the two-REAR > > > speakers and a combination of both voices and > > score on the two-FRONT > > > speakers (this is hypothetical, simple and > > straightforward example): > > > *L/R Front* speakers: Combination/layers of both > > voices and background > > > score > > > *CENTER* speaker: Only voices > > > *L/R Rear** *speakers: *Only background score* > > > > > > You can imagine watching a movie and an extra > > sound effect from back, or > > > someone yelling from behind you or a car whooshing > > by. And remember, they > > > can try many different combinations with 5 > > different channels. > > > > > > *How to extract voiceless BGMs?* > > > Simply put, you have to tap into the channels > > that only contain the > > > 'Background Score'. In the simple example given > > above, it would be the > > > 'L/R Rear Speaker/Channel'. > > > > > > *How do kaissiom and AJ extract voiceless BGMs?* > > > Well, I can't speak for AJ, but I know he uses > > some software. And as far > > > as I'm concerned, I can write a longer post than > > this one trying to explain > > > how I accidentally did it. My method is not all > > software- it's combination > > > of hardware and software. I was fixing my > > computer and my home-theater > > > system set-up, such that I can play the music from > > my computer on my > > > surround sound system. This required additional > > cables, adapters, etc.. but > > > I accidentally cut one wire and attached it in the > > wrong place somewhere on > > > the soundcard and amplifier. And when I played a > > movie on my computer, all > > > I could hear was voices, no BGM. When I switched > > some wires.. I got BGM, no > > > voices... hence, voiceless BGMs. I still have to > > switch these wires... > > > every time I have to extract voiceless BGMs ;-) > > > * > > > How can one extract voiceless BGMs?* > > > *-[Software]*- Easiest way to do it: Find a > > DVD-ripping software that not > > > only rips audio from DVD, but rips audio as > > separate channels. Once you > > > have all the audio in different channels, keep the > > channel with BGM, discard > > > the rest. > > > *-[Hardware]*- Complicated way of doing it: Cut > > some wires from the > > > surround sound system and record it from the > > amplifier - this is how I do > > > it. It takes me about 5 to 6 hours to do a movie > > because I perform > > > additional editing using software to enhance the > > quality. I use > > > hardware(amplifier/soundcard) to extract the audio > > and then use > > > software(SoundForge) to enhance it. > > > * > > > Are there any caveats?* > > > As with everything... Yes. > > > *-[Source]* The movie has to be recorded in > > surround sound. Older movies > > > (Roja, Bombay, etc.), and surprisingly some newer > > movies are not recorded in > > > surround sound... therefore, NO VOICELESS BGMs are > > possible - Ever. > > > *-[Media]* Even if the movie was recorded in > > surround sound. You have to > > > get hold of the DVD with 5.1 surround sound. VCD > > or a tape will not > > > work. Some Indian DVDs just have the '5.1 Dolby > > Digital' stamp for the > > > 'coolness' factor, and are not true surround > > sound. I have had this > > > experience with Zubeidaa. In other words, there > > are some fake surround > > > sound DVD out there, and they will not work - NO > > VOICELESS BGMs. > > > *- [Application]* Finally, the application used to > > extract the BGMs should > > > support surround sound. > > > > > > *What is 'Sync sound'?* > > > Some movies, mostly newer ones are recorded in > > sync sound. Lagaan, > > > Swades, RDB are all sync sound. Sync sound means > > actors' dialogues are > > > recorded live while shooting the movie, actors do > > not have to go in for a > > > 'lip sync' or 'dubbing' session after the movie. > > BMGs > === message truncated === > > > -- regards, Vithur HELP EVER; HURT NEVER; LOVE ALL; SERVE ALL
