Thineshan, Thanks for sharing this info with us. and as you requested, maybe Gops & Vijay can let ARR be aware of this problem..
I see that in Guri - Ay Hairathe - when HariHaran reaches high pitch at around 02:55, the Bass Violin/Cello/XXXX causes distortion. this happens in Car Stereo as well as Home Stereo.. This happens with Audio CD (Sony BMG) Could this be because of similar issue ? On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Thineshan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey guys, this is about a problem that has been haunting audiophiles > in the modern age. > > I am sure you all have atleast one pyramid CD of Rahmans. Put this in > and listen to the songs, now find the same songs from another > distributor (alai oosai, ayngaran), you will notice that the volume is > noticeable higher. This is because of the loudness war. Distributors > nowadays are increasing their volume levels to "sound" better, when > what is at stake is audio dynamics. Some of you might be wondering why > this might be a problem (just reduce the volume and its all fine). > However, what happens is, there is a maximum volume level that a CD > can accept (this is called a loudness ceiling). basically u cannot > increase the volume higher than this level, so what distributors do is > increase the parts that are not at their maximum. The end result? We > get tracks that have a constant volume (static) without any dynamics. > What ARR might have initially planned to sound soft and subtle now > sounds loud. This causes distortion and no matter how much you reduce > the volume on your speakers to match lets say the volume levels of a > pyramid CD, that distrotion is still there because the original has > been altered. > > This was not that noticeable till we heard mayilirage (what a track > that was!), but because ARR designed that track with very very high > dynamics especially with the bass tabla, when audio distributors > increased the volume, those sounds that were already at their maximum > now sound distorted and so the complaints by many people about its > quality. Let me tell you all something, ARR made no mistake with its > quality, its all distributors fault. I also noticed the same problem > with guru (tamil) version --> aaruyire around 4 25 when she goes "nee > ilatha iravoa". The hindi version (Sony BMG) was CRYSTAL clear, but > the same song at the same places had distortions in tamil (Ayngaran). > > For the time being, lets contribute to this discussion about which > distributor has the better quality. IMO, pyramid tops them all! Let me > know what you all think. Remmeber dont just look at volume levels, but > observe the dynamics. low volume doesnt necessarily mean better. You > can put ur tracks into programs like goldwave and observe the > waveform. I have done this with some tracks and pyramid scores! but > unfortunately i only have pyramid and ayngaran. > > This problem must be stopped now otherwise we will hear damaged music > like mayilirage and aaruyirae (fortunately its not evident like in > these tracks). This is a form of harrasment. I know there is are sound > engineers and audiophiles in this group who know WAY more than me and > have been aware of this from day one. I just wanted to share something > that I thought concerns all of us who love quality damage-free music. > I request people like Gopal and Vijay to look into this matter and > inform ARR so that he is aware of this(i am sure he is) and he advises > the distributors regarding the same. > > > -- Cheers, Pradeepan. "All you need to do is, decide what to do with the time that is given to you !"
