I appreciate your forthright views. However I look at Jodhaa-Akbar was Ashu's contemporary interpretation of a supposedly-true historical story. And Rahman's music was in perfect sync with that concept. A Mughal-E-Azam-like treatment of the music would have been a regressive step, though Rahman is more than up to the task. Ergo comparisons to that MEA are unwarranted.
--- In [email protected], V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 7/18/2008 8:35 PM India Time, _Gomzy_ wrote: > > > hehe Rawat, you will be disappointed to know that he is indeed the > > composer. AG is the best and gets the best out of ARR. > > I think JA music is an absolute failure on part of ARR. > > ARR didn't at all get the feel of the period movie. It seems ARR had > absolutely no idea the large - big - huge - grand - great - showman > style in which AG was making the movie. > > So, ARR composed music which is very personal, individualistic music, > and that didn't match at all, didn't fit at all in the grandeur of the > movie. > > Result was disastrous. music sunk down without a trace in the movie. > > This would be the only movie of ARR in which the director didn't butcher > the songs, still the songs didn't become noticeable, just because the > songs were on a different concept as if ARR was composing for a soft > love story between Jodha and Akbar, but the music movie was Princess and > Queen Jodha and Azeemoshaan Shanshaah Akbar from beginning to end. > Azeemoshaan Shanshaah is the only "public" song, and I found it > irritatingly loud. Moulded lyrics worsened it. > > How could it happen? > > Why, if ARR and AG are so intimate? > > Didn't AG tell ARR what he is doing in the movie so that ARR would have > included the grandeur in his music? > > it seems AG kept on emphasizing to ARR that he is making a love story > between Jodha and akbar, and that is why ARR created such a personal > music for the film, missing out on the grandeur. > > Mughal-e-azam also had the 100% classical personal song Prem Jogan Ban > Ke, that was shot on Dilip and Madhubala in the garden overnight. But > rest of the music was mostly with the grandeur that befits on a period > movie of this scale. Even the songs between individuals had a grandeur > of a period movie. > > ARR missed on this grandeur, and gave three looooonnnnng personal songs > - jashnebahara, in lamhon ke daman mein and khwaja mere khwaja. That was > disproportionate for the film. > > Though I don't blame ARR for Manmohana fiasco. The song was so long and > too much noticeable, but that also I think is because AG must have kept > on emphasing to ARR about showing hindu Jodha doing prayers in Muslim > Akbar's palace, so ARR gave it a lot of importance and created such a > loooonnnnggg non-subtle song that pinches in ears. > > JA would always hold the crown of music going in one direction and film > going orthogonally to that. And I blame AG 100% for that. he took ARR > for a ride for this film. And ARR lost by not giving a "pyar kiya to > darna kya" level of song in it. I think ARR was just not knowing that he > can give such a song in it. > > > > > On 7/18/08, *V S Rawat* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > wrote: > > > > On 7/18/2008 6:43 PM India Time, _Jahanzeb Farooq_ wrote: > > > > > Is out boss not composing for Ashutosh Gowariker's What's Your > > > Raashee? The wikipedia page > > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What%27s_Your_Raashee%3F) shows SEL as > > > music directors. I am completely surprised. Ashutosh has said in some > > > interview some days back that he wants A.R.Rahman for it. So sad! > > > > > > > Whatever. > > > > My view is that Ashutosh is not really a song-music person. He might > > have good ear for music but he doesn't have imagination enough to give > > good treatment to songs. > > > > All songs of Lagaan/ Swadesh were sort of fit in the movie. There > > was no > > special scene, no great visuals, no imagination at all. All routine > > scenes, all daily life situations. Just on the run. > > > > At most, a situation was created for the Kailash Kher song in Swades, > > but how shabbily it was patched in. > > > > So, I think it is no loss for ARR if Ashutosh goes away. It was > > Ashutosh's films that were benefitting from ARR's music, the films > > themselves didn't add to the beauty of ARR's songs. > > > > Ashutosh is not a 1% of Mani or Shankar when it comes to songs > > picturization. > > > > Of course, a film getting hit makes the music reach more persons, there > > is no denial of that. > > > > And, if ARR feels comfortable with Ashutosh and becomes more creative > > giving his better ones, then of course, it is a loss for us if Ashutosh > > breaks away. > > > > I didn't mention JA because the movie went of a totally different track > > away from music. I don't even remember where Jashnebahara or lamho ke > > daaman had been. Such a forgettable treatment. And remember the stale > > situation of Manmohna, the gaudy money-waster sets of > > Azeem-shaanshahanshah give pain when remember. JA was a shit, confused, > > purpose-less movie. > > > > I always felt that SEL are a perfect fit for Ashutosh's level. > > > > -- > > V > > -- > V >
