Was not hamsadvani a popular raga always?.... In general ragas from carnatic 
music are being borrowed now as in earlier times and now in carnatic music 
ragas like Hamir Kalyani, Behark etc are used

--- On Fri, 9/5/08, jibandevta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: jibandevta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [arr] Re: Dr. L Subramaniam’s special session at A.R. Rahman’s K.M. 
Music Conservatory
To: [email protected]
Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 10:10 AM










    
            Great piece of news..I was expecting such nice discourses kind of 

things would happen in KM..

One point to note: Raga Hansdhwani is getting very much popular these

days..It's being played by many great Performers like Ustad Zakir 

Hussain and Amjad ali Khan sahab..



Regards

Jiban



--- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Vithur <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:

>

> http://www.hindu. com/fr/2008/ 09/05/stories/ 2008090551120400 .htm

> 

> Dr. L Subramaniam' s special session at A.R. Rahman's K.M. Music

> Conservatory, brought into focus the importance of the nadha or 

sound which

> is the very process of creation and is the only medium to a state 

of

> consciousness. He ascribed t he development of Indian music to 

Vedic chants

> taken in monotone, with emphasis on the words, making it a free 

note chant.

> 

> Dr. Subramaniam explained how this concept of seven notes can be 

derived

> from Sama Veda and it was around the 12th century that the two 

strong

> classical systems Hindustani and Carnatic developed. These seven 

basic notes

> are also present in western classical. During the 18th century, it 

was

> Venkatamaki who determined the 72 parent scales that have seven 

notes each.

> 

> Vajra ragas

> 

> The ragas which are created by omitting notes are called the Vajra 

ragas.

> Muthuswami Dikshitar's "Vathapi Ganapatim" in Hamsadhwani is a 

case in

> point. It has pentatonic scale. In the second category are the 

Vakra ragas,

> which indicate a break of continuity or regularity in the accepted 

order of

> notes.

> 

> There's yet another category which is a combination of the Vakra 

and Vajra

> called the Bhashanga ragas. These are ragas with foreign notes

> (accidentals) ; Bhashanga are the 'derived scale ragas,' which grow 

out of a

> major scale by the inclusion of a minor komal swara. Anand 

Bhairavi, Piloo

> and Bhairavi and Hindolam are some examples presenting the Vajra 

Bhashanga

> combinations. There are innumerable opportunities in Vakra 

Bhashanga; on

> taking one parent scale many explorations are possible. Dr. 

Subramaniam

> pointed out the importance of the primary and the secondary notes 

that is

> Vadi and Samvadi in a raga. The key phrase of the raga would 

express the

> primary note. Similarly, on improvising, the ornamentation of the 

primary

> and secondary notes would give a clear picture to the raga. Raga 

does not

> emerge simply out of going up and down the scale; it is the 

ornamentation

> relevant to a particular raga which gives the right emotion, the 

right

> flavour and comes close to being a raga which is the exposition of 

colour

> emotion and feeling, he said.

> 

> Dr. Subramaniam spoke about the seven basic talas,108 variable 

talas and the

> Chapu Talas.

> 

> Dr. Subramaniam' s inter-active exhaustive talk on the basics of the

> raga-tala system was a fitting introduction to the first batch of 

the

> Foundation Programme and to the faculty drawn from different parts 

of the

> world at the KM Music Conservatory.

> 

> 

> -- 

> regards,

> Vithur

> 

> ARR -- The Sweet Cube always

>




      

    
    
        
         
        
        








        


        
        


      

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