Ya, I also noticed in recent years Rahman's music is becoming little louder and less filtered. I've been observing this trend Post 'R.D.B' albums.
One thing I'm sure that, presently Rahman is giving less importance to the fine tuning of his songs. It's becoz lack of time and no gain in putting such effort in current music trend. Yuvraj is a great album with everything, great melodies, lyrics, rahmanish singing styles, symponies etc. But what I'm missing is those ARR's trademark fine nuances, strong bass lines and improvisations in orchestrations. Afterall I'm a hardcore Rahmaniac just becoz of his Bombay, Kadalan, Tiruda Tiruda (and most of the albums in those period) :) Another thing I noticed in recent albums is, his songs are becoming more performer freindly. I mean most of JTJYN and some songs of Ada, JA and Yuvvraj can be performed in current Talent shows without missing notes :) And orchestrations are simple to perform on stages... Also, before people will think thrice(!) before using Fanah, Mukabala, O humdum soniyore on dance floors becoz of high quality and seriousness in the songs. But now Pappu Can't dance , Taxi Taxi and shano shano are everywhere becoz easiness of beats and whacky lyrics :) . So I can say I'm happy in bothways... :) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gomzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I really doubt if its the issue with the music companies. This started with > ARR's Bose i think. > The chorus part just goes haywire. > > If you check recent soundtracks like Omkara, Singh is King, Parineeta > etc....i find them to be of very good > quality. > > Something that ARR needs to know? > > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Neetika raina [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > Krish Bro, > > I completely agree with you...This loudness is sometimes very irritating. > > My fav song "In Lamhon ke daman mein (JA)"...when the chorus hits the peak, > > its a torture to hear wid high volume.. > > I love dis song so much..but its a pain to decrease the volume everytime > > wen the chorus part comes.. > > ARR is the one who introduced Quality sound to Indians... > > I think its the fault of music companies :( :( > > Whoever is responsile for this mistake should take care of this issue next > > time.. as its a very serios problem arising from past few releases!!! > > > > ARR tracks are gems...should be taken extra care while handling!!! > > > > ~Love Music Love Life > > Neetika Raina > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sreekrishnan R" [EMAIL PROTECTED]<rahmanfever%40yahoo.co.uk> > > > > > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com <arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:48:23 PM GMT +05:30 Chennai, Kolkata, > > Mumbai, New Delhi > > Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Tutu's Take- Indiafm Review of Yuvraaj > > > > am I the only one disappointed by the increasing trend in recent ARR albums > > to be loud? > > > > No.. I'm also here.. > > > > All the songs of ARR's recent Albums are touching the Peak level in the > > Sound Forge as well as Nuendo Softwares though it is not jarring or causing > > any distortion. I was thinking about it when I heard the Sakkarakatti Songs > > in Sound Forge. Thought it happened because AR's songs were missing H. > > Shridhar Sir in the crew. But in Yuvvraaj he's credted and he has done the > > entire Mixing and Mastering (with Sivakumar Sir). Still all the songs hit > > the Peak level. I think this is bit a serious issue on a Sound Engineer's > > point of view. Because AR's each and every song is like a reference book for > > a Sound Engineer.. I learned and am learning a lot of things by analysing > > his old and latest mixes. > > I think some kind of magic is missing in the mixes of some songs. > > I said before that this is just a Sound Engineer's point of view. Apart > > from these kind of some minute things , his songs are real real gems for the > > audience. full satisfaction guaranteed ! I always believe that one could not > > enjoy his songs if he keeps on looking and digging out such small small > > things. But professionally we've to admit this. > > Hope AR will take care of it in future and avoid touching the peak levels > > of his songs. :-) > > > > Thanks. > > > > -- > > regards.. > > > > Krish.. > > His Music ~ My Mother Tongue > > > > > > --- On Wed, 22/10/08, Ramesh R [EMAIL PROTECTED]<triscodeca%40yahoo.com>> > > wrote: > > From: Ramesh R [EMAIL PROTECTED] <triscodeca%40yahoo.com>> > > Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Tutu's Take- Indiafm Review of Yuvraaj > > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com <arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com> > > Date: Wednesday, 22 October, 2008, 10:05 AM > > > > Why is it that every time there's a less-than-favorable review of an ARR > > album there are a number of fans waiting to attack the reviewer? "Tootsie > > pop"? "Arrogant man"? Do you really need all the name calling? > > A review, aside from attempting some sort of analysis or critique, is just > > one person's opinion of how he or she reacts to something. Obviously we all > > react differently or else this would be a boring place. Reading Joginder > > Tuteja's review it looks like he is less than impressed because he finds > > some of the tracks very situational and he was expecting something bigger. > > That's his reaction and that's perfectly fine. You can choose to disagree > > with his viewpoint and have your own. That's fine too. > > On the other hand every Tom, Dick and Harry who mentions something about > > the album > > in a blog gets posted here. A lot of these posts sound like the gushings of > > a fanboy with hardly any critique or analysis. Why is it that such posts are > > treated as great reviews even if they lack a cogent argument or any > > substance at all? > > > > Gopal & Vithur, > > Could you folks excercise some restraint when you post blog articles > > especially about album reviews? By all means do post something if you think > > that it attempts some form of critique. But please spare us the ramblings. > > Or perhaps, just post a link to the blog and let folks who're interested > > check it out if they're interested. > > > > Back to Yuuvraaj... > > There are a number of things that bother me about Yuuvraaj (and other > > recent ARR works) but for now... am I the only one disappointed by the > > increasing trend in recent ARR albums to be loud? Here's what I see when I > > load the clips in Audacity- > > http://i36.tinypic. com/2eksooz. jpg > > Check the Youtube post on Loudness War for the context. > > > > RR > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Chord [EMAIL PROTECTED] com> > > To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com > > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 11:22:40 AM > > Subject: [arr] Re: Tutu's Take- Indiafm Review of Yuvraaj > > > > Tootsie Pop only rates albums based on how mnay chartbuster hits (his > > > > distorted definition of one) it has. This has ZERO credibility for > > > > me. > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, "Vinod Raju" vinod@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The review seems to have been taken off the site. > > > > > > > > > > The link says "No review". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Vinod > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, ali ahad <mindblower2003@ > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > he do like YUVVRAAJ ...but don't want to admit ....arrogant man > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 10/20/08, en_arvind <en_arvind@> wrote: > > > > > > From: en_arvind <en_arvind@> > > > > > > Subject: [arr] Tutu's Take- Indiafm Review of Yuvraaj > > > > > > To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com > > > > > > Date: Monday, October 20, 2008, 6:45 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > I will resist passing my personal take and comments on Joginder > > > > > > Tuteja's reviews as nothing but @#$%%^&* will be there but here > > > > > it is > > > > > > for YUVRAAJ.... > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.bollywoo dhungama. com/movies/ musicreview/ > > > > > 13391/index. html > > > > > > > > > > > > At the beginning of the year, when the list of most anticipated > > > > > > tracks of 2008 was being compiled, Yuvvraaj was one of the first > > > > > to > > > > > > make an entry. And why not? After all, Subhash Ghai and Rahman > > > > > coming > > > > > > together is big enough news, especially since it will be after 9 > > > > > long > > > > > > years that the two would be coming together after Taal (Kisna > > > > had > > > > > > Ismail Darbar sharing credits with Rahman). With the film's > > > > > subject > > > > > > being musical, Gulzar saab writing lyrics, Shiamak Davar as the > > > > > > choreographer and actors like Anil Kapoor, Salman Khan and > > > > > Katrina > > > > > > Kaif coming together, Yuvraaj was always going to be the magnum > > > > > opus > > > > > > of 2008! > > > > > > > > > > > > So does the music of Yuvraaj meet the mammoth expectation one > > > > has > > > > > > carried for almost a year? The answer is No and Yes! No, because > > > > > > Yuvraaj is certainly not Taal. Forget matching the class of > > > > Taal, > > > > > it > > > > > > is far away from it when it comes to sheer mass appeal. > > > > > > > > > > > > Write your own music review of Yuvvraaj > > > > > > Yes, because if one looks at Yuvraaj as a stand alone product > > > > and > > > > > > doesn't associate big names like Ghai, Rahman, Gulzar and the > > > > > rest, > > > > > > it makes for a fine hearing. The soundtrack isn't bad; it just > > > > > isn't > > > > > > very great, as one had anticipated all this while. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yuvraaj starts on an extremely positive note though. > > > > Amalgamation > > > > > of > > > > > > Western classical music with Indian melody is done excellently > > > > by > > > > > > A.R. Rahman who creates a mesmerizing 'Tu Meri Dost Hain' which > > > > > gets > > > > > > a Thumbs Up on the first hearing itself. Introducing a new > > > > singer > > > > > > Benny Dayal, Rahman gives him a huge responsibility of singing > > > > > the > > > > > > flagship number of Yuvraaj which has a serene quality to it. > > > > > Later > > > > > > the composer comes along with Shreya Ghoshal behind the mike as > > > > > well. > > > > > > Flowing seamlessly, 'Tu Meri Dost Hain' has a grand orchestra to > > > > > it > > > > > > which should sound even better once merged with the opulent > > > > > frames > > > > > > captured by Ghai. > > > > > > > > > > > > Reminding of the kind of numbers composed by Rahman in the mid- > > > > > > 90s, 'Mastam Mastam' is the next to come which is a fun > > > > > celebration > > > > > > track. Primarily sung by Sonu Nigam with Naresh and Benny being > > > > > the > > > > > > additional voices and Alka Yagnik joining in later, 'Mastam > > > > > Mastam' > > > > > > is situational and could easily pass off as a track for > > > > children. > > > > > The > > > > > > tune is simple but isn't exciting enough to make you jump with > > > > > joy. > > > > > > Now all depends upon the way Ghai picturises the song and makes > > > > > it > > > > > > engaging enough for audience to be entertained. > > > > > > > > > > > > Beethoven is heard in 'Main Hoon Yuvvraaj' which is mainly a 70 > > > > > > second's piece where Salman Khan proclaims - 'I am a bad guy'. > > > > > > Mouthing a few dialogues in his now-famous accented manner, > > > > > Salman > > > > > > mainly uses this platform for introducing his character. > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Tu Muskura' is set in the same mode as 'Tu Meri Dost Hain' when > > > > > it > > > > > > comes to keeping the soothing element intact. This Alka Yagnik > > > > > sung > > > > > > track is easy on ears but doesn't quite come with a power which > > > > > would > > > > > > make it the kind that would become an instant success with one > > > > > and > > > > > > all. Javed Ali joins Alka Yagnik mid-way into the song which > > > > > almost > > > > > > sounds like a lullaby and maintains similar pace and effect from > > > > > > start till the finish. Yet again number where a lot would depend > > > > > upon > > > > > > the way it comes across on screen. > > > > > > > > > > > > Subhash Ghai may have promised to incorporate a number in > > > > Yuvraaj > > > > > > which is in a mould similar to that of a 'Fanaa' [Yuva] or > > > > > a 'Pappu' > > > > > > [JTYJN]. However, 'Shano Shano' doesn't really turn out to be > > > > THE > > > > > hip- > > > > > > n-happening number which one would have expected as the tune > > > > > doesn't > > > > > > make you head towards the dance floor even after repeat hearing. > > > > > A > > > > > > number which sees quite a few singers coming together - Sonu > > > > > Nigam, > > > > > > Srinivas Kartik, Timmy, Sunaina, Vivienne Pocha and Tina - > > > > 'Shano > > > > > > Shano' is a letdown. > > > > > > > > > > > > A shorter 'remix version' comes at the album's end. Featuring > > > > > EMBER, > > > > > > it has the husky sound of 'Main Main Main Main Yuvvraaj' going > > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > background. Now it has to be seen that to what extent does > > > > Salman > > > > > > manage to turn around the fortunes of this song! > > > > > > > > > > > > Reminding of the kind of songs that Bhupinder Singh used to sing > > > > > in > > > > > > the late 70s/early 80s, 'Zindagi' is the next to come. Srinivas > > > > > > croons this sad track which has minimal instruments in the > > > > > background > > > > > > and mainly has him occupying the center-stage. A number about > > > > > > questioning life around the losses one has seen, this one is yet > > > > > > another hardcore situational track which barely manages to pass > > > > > > muster. In fact one wonders whether this number, that is almost > > > > > semi- > > > > > > classical in appeal, would play in it's entirety in the film > > > > > since it > > > > > > lasts as long as 5 minutes! > > > > > > > > > > > > Wait, there is more to come. The song which follows next, 'Dil > > > > Ka > > > > > > Rishta', is almost 8 minutes long! Seemingly a climax track > > > > which > > > > > > opens with clear inspiration from Beethoven, 'Dil Ka Rishta' > > > > > appears > > > > > > to be a concert in progress with fusion of Indian and Western > > > > > > classical. Expect the situation in the film to have a grandeur > > > > > appeal > > > > > > to it, especially with the opening two minutes being entirely > > > > > > dedicated to the coming together of various musical instruments > > > > > and > > > > > > chorus (Clinton, Suzanne, Vivieanne Pocha, Naresh, Benny, > > > > > Blazze). > > > > > > > > > > > > Later Sonu Nigam, Roop Kumar Rathod and A R Rahman come together > > > > > > for 'Dil Ka Rishta' which promises to exceed the effect created > > > > > > by 'Taal Se Taal Mila' or 'Kahin Aag Lage' from Taal on the > > > > > screen. > > > > > > Yes, there is a grand quality to this song but on the flip side > > > > > > doesn't have in it to be sung around the town. At maximum, it > > > > > would > > > > > > make for a good cinematic appeal. > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Manmohini Morey' is a fusion classical track which comes with a > > > > > good > > > > > > probability on being filmed on Anil Kapoor. Good, but > > > > > situational. > > > > > > Yet again! > > > > > > > > > > > > Once Yuvvraaj comes to an end, one wonders that which of the > > > > > songs > > > > > > from the album would turn into a chartbuster. And to one's > > > > > surprise, > > > > > > it is hard to pin point on a particular track since Ghai and > > > > > Rahman > > > > > > have mainly come up with the soundtrack that would possibly fuse > > > > > well > > > > > > with the narrative but doesn't really throw a number which would > > > > > make > > > > > > its presence felt from the top. Collectively, the album does > > > > have > > > > > > it's moments as only a song or two don't quite make an > > > > > impression. > > > > > > Celina Jaitley, Golmaal Returns > > > > > > > > > > > > At the music stands though, Yuvraaj has a good probability of > > > > > making > > > > > > an early impression since the name Rahman sells. 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