*fanatics like you only argue on all the points.. first u study to accept positive criticisms. i know that u will be there in front to put ur points against anyone who criticizes ARR.. thats ur attitude..* * Well you need to cool now. And thanks for getting personal.positive criticism? You havent been reading my mails carefully. Maybe thats what you have been doing with the songs too. *
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 9:10 AM, jemsheed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > not only me man..there are many outside and inside this group who have > the same concern.. > ..i have not changed my opinions.. > fanatics like you only argue on all the points.. > first u study to accept positive criticisms. > i know that u will be there in front to put ur points against anyone who > criticizes ARR.. > thats ur attitude.. > OK > > > --- On *Sun, 9/11/08, Gomzy™ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > From: Gomzy™ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [arr] @Gomzy - Do U find those creative percussions missing > nowadays in Sir's arrangement?- i agree > To: [email protected] > Date: Sunday, 9 November, 2008, 12:23 AM > > > *Cool man.. take it as my personal opinion.* > > *If only you had said it was your opinion. Reread your previous mail. You > wanted us to accept.* > > > *the difference btwn us is am not a die hard fan like you.. accepts only > if the work is gud only.. > * > *Yes i am a die hard fan. Not a fanatic. Check out the archives. You will > find atleast a dozen mails > of mine which find similarities/ inspirations of ARR with other artistes. > > And again I reiterate. Go ahead and accept things that you find good. > Please dont imbibe it on others.* > > *read the thread starter's points again..its same what i have to say .. > hope u get me..* > > *You got to read my mail to you again. I never had any issues with you not > liking techno songs. Its only when you feel that you are right, and others > fans are blindly praising ARR, that i have a problem.Please understand that > some may still like it.Like some of us. Doesnt mean anyone is right here.* > > *You got to understand here. Not only has ARR changed, we have too. * > > > > > On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 6:34 PM, jemsheed <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com<[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> Cool man.. take it as my personal opinion. >> the difference btwn us is am not a die hard fan like you.. accepts only if >> the work is gud only.. >> >> nd frm ur list except khwaja none of them are mass hits..khwaja also >> belongs to a class.. can u gues why.. >> take any lagaan songs or even any songs frm boyz (sure not frm 2000s) they >> were mass hits also..right? ..now dont say that we are masses.. >> the reason is simple as gops said each artist has their own peak time :) >> >> basically..i dont like these computer generated(synthetic ) sounds which >> arr nowa days inputs more..what u say... >> take song 'dost' what a nice song..but the backing >> kelaamal, marudani,... etc >> read the thread starter's points again..its same what i have to say .. >> hope u get me.. >> >> >> --- On *Sat, 8/11/08, Gomzy™ <gomtesh.upadhye@ gmail.com<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >* wrote: >> >> From: Gomzy™ <gomtesh.upadhye@ gmail.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >> Subject: Re: [arr] Do U find those creative percussions missing nowadays >> in Sir's arrangement? - i agree >> To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com <[email protected]> >> Date: Saturday, 8 November, 2008, 4:49 PM >> >> *one of the boring thing in a fans group is supporting the artist even >> if he degrades in his quality output and the fans argue it as new things or >> new style or innovations. .* >> >> *You know whats even more boring? The age old problem of a human being. >> Its called " What I feel is Right! " >> Its you who feel this and not necessarily that everyone else should feel, >> right? >> Now maybe you are right, but again you maybe wrong. >> But since you feel so, everyone else is stupid eh? * >> >> *this yr as of now we have JA,SK,JTYJ,ADA, YVR.. >> Songs are nice..can somebody tell me(plz honestly) an' in and out >> outstanding' song from these albums..yes am comparing the this yrs songs >> with his older day's quality outputs..* >> >> *1) Khwaja Mere Khwaja >> 2) Hawa Sun hawa >> 3) Zindagi >> 4) Mujhe Milo >> 5) Man Mohana >> >> I have tried been horribly honest here and i could come up with atleast >> the above songs as masterpieces. >> But again, its what i feel and i maybe wrong. But I maybe right too. >> * >> *one of the main reason is said by this thread starter. >> accept it and letus hope later this may get improved.. >> as of now watching the 1 min clip of gajini i feel this also belongs to >> the same.*. >> >> * >> Now I have no qualms in you accepting. But why in God's name should we ? >> Is it cuz you think you are right? Now who else says you are right? * >> >> *i dont know the technical terms much ...but i can hear that and i can >> feel that..* >> >> *Good. Thank God you didnt force me to feel it too .....Atleast i get to >> do that on my own* >> >> *Put in your views and I shall put mine. Lets not try proving who is >> right and who is wrong. * >> >> On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 10:17 AM, jemsheed <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com<[EMAIL >> PROTECTED]> >> > wrote: >> >>> one of the boring thing in a fans group is supporting the artist even >>> if he degrades in his quality output and the fans argue it as new things or >>> new style or innovations. . >>> ok.. i have a qn here.. >>> this yr as of now we have JA,SK,JTYJ,ADA, YVR.. >>> Songs are nice..can somebody tell me(plz honestly) an' in and out >>> outstanding' song from these albums..yes am comparing the this yrs songs >>> with his older day's quality outputs.. >>> >>> one of the main reason is said by this thread starter. >>> accept it and letus hope later this may get improved.. >>> as of now watching the 1 min clip of gajini i feel this also belongs to >>> the same.. >>> the synethetic.. .i dont know the technical terms much ...but i can hear >>> that and i can feel that.. >>> >>> --- On *Sat, 8/11/08, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >>> * wrote: >>> >>> From: V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >>> Subject: Re: [arr] Do U find those creative percussions missing nowadays >>> in Sir's arrangement? >>> To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com <[email protected]> >>> Date: Saturday, 8 November, 2008, 12:47 AM >>> >>> Yes, Jafar. Agree with you. That is the way it is. ARR is trying >>> different things now, and that is what fans expect him to do. No point >>> giving old things again. >>> >>> There could be some sacrifices brought by this but that can't be helped. >>> >>> 1. One is that I feel that ARR's signature thinggy is becoming less and >>> less obvious in his songs, in some songs it needs to be searched with a >>> magnifying glass, it needs to be discussed and argued whether it is >>> there or not. >>> >>> 2. But the good aspect is that the growing period of ARR's music has >>> almost disappeared or has become very short. >>> >>> -- >>> V >>> >>> On 11/7/2008 10:32 PM India Time, _Jafar K_ wrote: >>> >>> > I totally disagree. ARR has lost nothing. He is trying different kind >>> of music everytime and I am enjoying it. >>> > >>> > Jafar >>> > >>> > --- On Fri, 7/11/08, dian hayati <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > com<diansrk%40yahoo.com>> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> >> From: dian hayati <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com <diansrk%40yahoo.com>> >>> >>> >> I absolutely agree with you guys. One thing also bothers me. >>> >> I love Srinivas' voice, very much unique, but singing >>> >> Zindagi...without that classical music...I feel something >>> >> missing, not really satisfied with the arrangement, and also >>> >> with the manmohini... hmm...well, is it just because I'm >>> >> not too smart to analyze these kind of things, or...I >>> >> don't know, but please correct me guys if I say >>> >> something wrong here... >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> AR Rahman has changed my life >>> >> His great music is another name of Love... >>> >> >>> >> Dian Hayati Syamsuir >>> >> >>> >> --- On Fri, 11/7/08, Chord <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com<purevibz%40yahoo.com> >>> > >>> >> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> From: Chord <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com <purevibz%40yahoo.com>> >>> >> Subject: Re: [arr] Do U find those creative percussions >>> >> missing nowadays in Sir's arrangement? >>> >> To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com <arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com> >>> >> Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 10:40 AM >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Agreed. Found Yuvraaj's rhythm tracks to be the weakest >>> >> link in the >>> >> album. He is also using synth tabla sounds, which is fine >>> >> by me, but >>> >> again underscores the diminished use of ethnic percussion >>> >> in recent >>> >> works, with exceptions like Khwaja and Azeem from JA. >>> >> >>> >> It could be a deliberate attempt by ARR to move away from >>> >> rhythm based >>> >> songs to more melody oriented numbers, which I feel has >>> >> been the >>> >> strongest trend by ARR recently. His songs this year have >>> >> been >>> >> extremely melodious, the most meloodious music out of >>> >> anyone in India, >>> >> and for that, I am extremely happy. His melodies and mid >>> >> range >>> >> arrangements are just mindblowing, even at the sacrifice of >>> >> his rhythm >>> >> tracks, which is just relative to his own previous work. >>> >> >>> >> --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Syed Quadri >>> >> <saregamaka@ ...> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> I fully agree on the poster's comments. May be it >>> >> is due to >>> >> relocation of his lieutenants , such as Siva mani, Naveen >>> >> and host of >>> >> other musicians already made Mumbai as their homes. Even >>> >> junior sound >>> >> engineers like Aditya Modi relocated to Mumbai. Other >>> >> factors could >>> >> be immense work load , pressure of deadlines ( Although >>> >> AR never turn >>> >> in the work on time.. .watch the recent interview hosted >>> >> by NDTV and >>> >> the trio was playing blame game in front of millions >>> >> of audience , >>> >> that Ghai was expecting a western classical in two months >>> >> and AR was >>> >> due to submit the project for shoot last July ,Gulzar >>> >> and Ghai belong >>> >> to two different schools of thought, etc ,etc ). >>> >>> it is a fact that , one person can not do things >>> >> single handed. Gone >>> >> are the days when MDs like Naushad, Madan mohan , >>> >> Ilyaraja RDB used >>> >> to oversee all the departments. This is the era where >>> >> Md's like SEL, >>> >> VS share their work load as a team and live in >>> >> tinsel town, stay in >>> >> touch with the best of people in the industry for PR work. >>> >> whereby >>> >> these smart marketing manipulators create negative >>> >> publicity for AR >>> >> and happily belonging to the camps controlling the >>> >> industry. >>> >>> >>> >>> --- On Thu, 11/6/08, subhadip_jis <subhadip_jis@ >>> >> ...> wrote: >>> >>> From: subhadip_jis <subhadip_jis@ ...> >>> >>> Subject: [arr] Do U find those creative percussions >>> >> missing nowadays >>> >> in Sir's arrangement? >>> >>> To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com >>> >>> Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 1:11 PM >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Guys, I want to share my views on this topic. I was >>> >> listening to >>> >>> Rahman Sir's classic compositions from >>> >> Iruvar-Alaypayithey -Bombay, >>> >>> also "Thiruda Thiruda" numbers & >>> >> "FIRE" BGMs. >>> >>> I think the usual charm of tight percussion units in >>> >> ARR's songs is no >>> >>> longer existing nowadays. The kind of minute details >>> >> we used to get in >>> >>> every beat of it, may it be "humma humma" or >>> >> "Thee Thee" or a semi- >>> >>> classical number like "Radha kaise na >>> >> jale..." is somewhere missing >>> >>> nowadays. Even this creative percussion were heard in >>> >> RDB, (Remember >>> >>> the bike chasing or killing of minister scene !!!!), >>> >> also a bit of it >>> >>> in Jodha Akbar (although he relied upon synthesized >>> >> beats in "Jashn >>> >>> Bahara"). >>> >>> Does it mean Rahman Sir doesn't involve himself >>> >> much in every section >>> >>> of a song, rather leave it to young bloods like >>> >> Krishna Chetan? At >>> >>> least I personally felt lack of innovative percussion >>> >> (using unusual >>> >>> beats & instruments) in last couple of films like >>> >> "Jaane >>> >>> Tu..", "Sakkarakatti" , "ADA" >>> >> & even in "Yuvraj". In "Yuvraj" also >>> >> he >>> >>> uses a lot of techno stuffs as backing beats, which >>> >> just supports the >>> >>> song by keeping the rhythm but doesn't increase >>> >> it's beauty. Well >>> >>> composed numbers like "Tu hi meri dost" or >>> >> "Manmohini" or "Dil ka >>> >>> rishta" has a very repeatative & fully >>> >> synthesized beat which cud have >>> >>> been taken care of I think, a full orchestral sound is >>> >> going side by >>> >>> side (just think of "Thiruda Thiruda") >>> >>> >>> >>> Whats ur opinion ???????? >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. 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