Well said..Make lot of sense
--- In [email protected], serge belier <s03g...@...>
wrote:
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> Gomzy, I share your point of view. I am not pulling down the WALL-
E song as I said that both are elligible for a win, but when it
comes for comparison, we have to end saying which one is better to
be able to vote. And I want ARR Sir to win.
>
> Truely, I think that ARR Sir has brought something different
combinning indian and western music, it is quite impossible for a
western composer to come out with this kind of indian/western score,
this is the originality of ARR Sir. HE has the background in both
musical culture. (this could have been done also by Talvin Singh,
Nitin Sawney or Karsh Kale, and I would have appreciate similarly if
their music have been used in a film).
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> Honestly, even if I did not know that ARR Sir compose for SDM and
if somebody would have told me that it is done by another composer,
I would have appreciate it as I love fusion style (I like Talvin,
Karsh, Nitin and other for this kind of fusion).
>
> To tell you the truth, at the beginning, when we discover SDM on
this fan group, someone said only 2 or 3 tracks were composed by ARR
SIR (most of the talks were on the "Ringa" song), and that the other
were tracks from other composed or other movies (like the one from
DON by SEL). Knowing that, when I first listen to Millionaire,
Liquid Dance or Escape from the internet, I was telling to
myself "hope these tracks are from ARR, because I love them that
much". I was telling that to myself without too much insurance as
ARR Sir never did this kind of music in the past, and for me it was
not his style of music. And knowing Danny Boyle films, in which he
usually uses old music from different artists as he did in
Trainspotting, I could not expect that tracks like Millionaire,
Liquid Dance or Escape are from ARR Sir. When I knew that all tracks
except the one from MIA (paper plane) and the one from DON, are from
ARR Sir, I can only rejoice myself.
>
> This is to tell that even if we were not an ARR fan, we still
would have appreciate SDM, this soundtrack is really extraordinary,
no doubts why the world appreciate it. We should be very lucky to
appreciate it more, being his fans, it is a gift to us. No
hesitation, I vote SDM songs and for a strategic vote, I vote Jai Ho.
>
> One last thing to conclude this mail, we always complain, even if
something is good, we still have negative critics, by doing that we
don't realize that we have something brilliant just in front of us
right now. I think that's why we always feel that past days were the
best one, this is applicable for everything in life, we always
appreciate more past memories, old movies, old songs, old feelings.
We don't enjoy today's life. I have nothing against old things, I
also share the idea of "Old is Gold", but that 's not a reason for
not recognizing the present good values, joy, happiness, ... (some
members of this group also said once, that they like old ARR music;
some others find new ARR music as "average" when the CD just got
out, the same find it excellent one month after. Don't worry it
happened also to myself many times. But now I still apppreciate old
songs which reminds me my chilhood and I also appreciate today's
music, because I am a music lover, I love all kind of music since
there is a melody in)
>
> Sorry for my long mail, hope I did not hurt anyone, if I did I
convey my apologies (they are not intended).
> Being a silent member for so long, I wanted to share with all of
you my thoughts on this specific subject in this specific time (only
12 days left for the OSCAR results). I will be really really happy
if ARR Sir win, he will win !!!!
>
> Serge BELIER
> (Paris - France)
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> To: arrahmanf...@...: gomtesh.upad...@...: Tue, 10 Feb 2009
14:27:16 +0000Subject: Re: Down to Earth by Peter Gabriel (Re:
[arr] 'Slumdog' vs. 'Wall-E' for best song)
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> Why would i not want SDM to win? :)
>
> I was just trying to appreciate the other song too. We have this
habit of pushing something down to pull
> something up. :P Just giving my opinion thats all.
> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 2:15 PM, serge belier <s03g...@...> wrote:
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> Gomzy, I did not understand your position. Are you saying that
Wall-E is better than SDM ? Would you prefer that Wall-E win the
oscar ? At this stage of the competition, for me, both music are
elligible for winning, but being a true ARR fan, I want that ARR SIR
wins.In other terms, being in love with India, I wish an Indian
wins. It's like when there is a cricket match in which India is
playing, will you wish that India loses the game ??? Honestly, I
hope I misunderstood your view. Otherwise, I don't know what's going
on in people mind, I don't understand.Regards, Serge BELIER(Paris -
FRANCE)
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> To: arrahmanf...@...: gomtesh.upad...@...: Tue, 10 Feb 2009
13:09:28 +0000Subject: Re: Down to Earth by Peter Gabriel (Re:
[arr] 'Slumdog' vs. 'Wall-E' for best song)
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> I heard Wall-E's Down to Earth by Peter Gabriel. I think that is
the song nominated for Oscar in the category of SDM songs.
>
> Yes Rawat. Thats the song.
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> The song seems good, but English music has had enumerable equally
good or even better songs compared to that, whereas our man's SDM
songs have a novelty value as international level music from India.
>
> Are you telling that Jai Ho is the best ever from India and hindi
music?
>
> And something in this song reminds me of some of Bryan Adams'
songs and even his voice, not able to pinpoint which one. Anyone.
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> Jai Ho reminds us of Bazi laga and the ATM song too. Thats not the
point.
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> Watch the movie. You will appreciate the song better. Also check
out the lyrics. Great message.
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> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:22 AM, V S Rawat <vsra...@...> wrote:
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> I heard Wall-E's Down to Earth by Peter Gabriel. I think that is
the song nominated for Oscar in the category of SDM songs.The song
seems good, but English music has had enumerable equally good or
even better songs compared to that, whereas our man's SDM songs have
a novelty value as international level music from India.And
something in this song reminds me of some of Bryan Adams' songs and
even his voice, not able to pinpoint which one. Anyone.--RawatOn
2/10/2009 10:02 AM India Time, _Gopal Srinivasan_ wrote:> 'Slumdog'
vs. 'Wall-E' for best song> No clear frontrunner among Oscar
nominees> By JON BURLINGAME> > For the third time in the past 20
years, music-branch voters chose only three tunes as best> song
nominees. Two are from the same movie, and two of the singers are
world-class world-music> recording artists.> > There is no clear-cut
favorite this year, unlike, say, eight years ago when Bob Dylan's
win for> "Things Have Changed" was a foregone conclusion, or the
year of "Titanic" and its ubiquitous> Celine Dion song. What happens
Feb. 22 depends several factors.> > First, the "Slumdog" phenomenon:
Both of the key songs in "Slumdog Millionaire" are nominated,> both
co-written by leading Indian composer A.R. Rahman (who is also
nominated for his original> score). The soundtrack album is rising
fast on the charts, so a "Slumdog" win would not> surprise.> > But
which song? Will voters remember that it was "Jai Ho" that was
performed as an elaborately> choreographed, Bollywood-style dance
number in the Mumbai train station at the end of the> movie?> > "Jai
Ho," with Indian lyrics by poet Gulzar, may be the most talked-about
musical moment from> year-end films. And Oscar voters, excited about
the prospect of seeing the number re-created on> the telecast, may
be thinking about that when filling out their ballots. If it wins,
it will be> only the second foreign-language song to do so (after
2004's "Al otro lado del rio" from "The> Motorcycle Diaries").> >
But Rahman's collaboration with London-born, Sri Lankan-raised Maya
Arulpragasam -- better> known to the pop world as M.I.A. -- on "O...
Saya" may resonate with younger voters for its> pounding rhythms,
electronica sound and rap-style vocals. That song's used earlier in
the film,> as police chase poor youngsters from an airport tarmac
through the streets.> > "Slumdog's" competition is the song from the
end of the Disney-Pixar movie "Wall-E," co-written> by Thomas Newman
(also nominated for his score) and Peter Gabriel. The nom is
Gabriel's first> despite having composed scores for such films
as "The Last Temptation of Christ" and> "Rabbit-Proof Fence."> >
Eight of the past 20 song statuettes have gone to tunes from
animated movies (all Disney pics> but one). And nine of the past 20
have gone to popular artists (including Gabriel's ex-Genesis>
bandmate Phil Collins, for "Tarzan," another Disney toon). Also,
Gabriel's human-rights and> environmental activism would seem to
coincide with the politics of many Acad voters.> > And, in recent
years, voters have spread the Oscar wealth among multiple pics.
A "Slumdog"> score win could translate into a "Wall-E" song win.> >
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117999867.html?categoryId=3275&cs=1
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