On 10/14/2009 10:02 AM India Time, _coolwiz80_ wrote:

> exactly dude.i dunno y people r callin it a flop film even before
> watching it or even checking out the box office numbers.

I personally have no problem taking CR to be a flop film on box office, or a 
badly made film. Sky is not falling if it is. ARR doesn't get blacklisted in 
the universe if one or more of his films are badly made or flop, just because 
ARR's music is good. In fact, it is a good thing if ARR's great music is the 
only thing that people find positive in such movies.

I think members get unduly worried about films getting flop because ARR's 
earlier movies and his earlier music had got hit right from Roja, Humse Hai 
MUqabla, Rangeela, Bombay. So, we hope the same to happen in Hollywood. But 
remember that Amitabh bachchan had given 11 through and through flop films in a 
series before Zanjeer broke all record and set a new trend.

So, don't get worried. ARR is out to change the entire culture of hollywood 
films. They are not giving much significance to music. It is upto ARR to change 
all that so that no hollywood film gets made without having 4-5 songs like 
bollywood is having. It is going to take time, but it will happen. ARR is 
capable of doing this wonder. He is out to teach to hollywood producers 
directors to respect music and give prominence to it. Hollywood audience are 
going to idolize ARR when this unchartered territory of music starts to 
enthrall them due to the efforts of ARR.

Wait and Watch.

--
Rawat

> I watched it
> and luved it..the problem is american comedies like these aint
> popular in India as they're either too vulgar for our aam junta ( as
> Moron Adarsh says ) or too stupid, but I totally luv movies of Vince,
> Will Ferrell, Ben Stiller, Mike Myers..all of whose movies aren't
> that popular in India, and most importantly they are easily money
> spinners as they hav their section of fans. I was actually glad AR
> Rahman chose this movie. So yes...all u guys stop complaining and
> enjoy the rain...its pouring Rahmania here...
> 
> Buluuuuu
> 
> Sirish
> 
> --- In [email protected], "vimaljk" <vima...@...> wrote:
>> it opened as #1 in the US box office with over $30 million!....it's
>> the SECOND time a film with ARR's music has topped the US box
>> office...be proud of ARR and stop complaining!...also....if you
>> have seen American comedies before...you should know by now how
>> music is used in them (stop comparing everything to
>> India!).....usually it's very few original music cues and some pop
>> songs
>> 
>> --- In [email protected], Madhavan Rajan <rsamadhu2002@>
>> wrote:
>>> And why did Rahman accept this film as his first post-Oscars
>>> project?
>>> 
>>> May be just for the heck of it!
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:55 PM, mohammed sajin <mnsajin@> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Rahman under-used in flop film
>>>> 
>>>> Early this year, A R Rahman was discovered by Hollywood and
>>>> America. He may have worked in the Indian film industry for
>>>> nearly two decades, composing some of the most memorable songs
>>>> of our time. But it took one film - Danny Boyle's Slumdog
>>>> Millionaire for him to gain fame in the West.
>>>> 
>>>> Now, after a couple of Oscars, a Golden Globe, television
>>>> appearances and several articles, Rahman has bagged his first
>>>> post-Slumdog project. Rahman has composed the soundtrack for a
>>>> new film Couples Retreat, written by Vince Vaughn and Jon
>>>> Favreau, the writing-acting team that brought us hit films like
>>>> Swingers, Iron Man, The Break Up and Wedding Crasher.
>>>> Unfortunately, Couples Retreat � the story of four couples on a
>>>> peculiar, new age-like retreat, trying to straighten out issues
>>>> in their marriages � is a dull, unimpressive film. The
>>>> dialogues are boring and it is mostly not funny.
>>>> 
>>>> A still from Couples Retreat. A R Rahman has composed 
>>>> soundtrack for the movie That is too bad because with a cast
>>>> that it has, Couples Retreat could have been a fun film for the
>>>> fall season, just before the studios start to burden us with a
>>>> deluge of the Oscar potential movies. Sometimes even films with
>>>> a lot of promise do not work out. We can search for answers,
>>>> but there is no sense in it. The film should do well in its
>>>> opening weekend, the big name stars are a draw, and then it
>>>> will disappear fast from the theatres.
>>>> 
>>>> I went for the press screening of Couples Retreat because of A
>>>> R Rahman. Having had a taste of his music in the US, from
>>>> Andrew Lloyd Webber's Bombay Dreams, to slick stage shows and
>>>> then hugging friends at a bar near Times Square when his Oscar
>>>> wins were announced in February, this was the moment I was
>>>> waiting for. This was going to be the mainstreaming of the
>>>> genius musician. He had worked on this project for three
>>>> months, first in London and then in Los Angeles.
>>>> 
>>>> I spent some time listening to the film's soundtrack on its
>>>> website. I knew that this was not going to be an Indian
>>>> soundtrack.
>>>> 
>>>> Rahman recently told the Associated Press that after Slumdog
>>>> Millionaire, he has started getting work where he can set his
>>>> own artistic terms. "Since the Oscars and all the appreciation,
>>>> people come for what I am," he said in the interview.
>>>> Meanwhile, the online site OneIndia quoted the composer as 
>>>> saying: "I've reached a stage where I've to do new things.
>>>> There're so many avenues to be explored. So Couples Retreat
>>>> will be their (Hollywood) kind of music with my touch, done in
>>>> my way."
>>>> 
>>>> The music, as we hear on the film's website, is mixed with
>>>> Caribbean sounds (although most of the film is shot in the
>>>> Pacific island Bora Bora), but Rahman also uses some Indian
>>>> touches, a few instruments and voices, including that of
>>>> Kailash Kher.
>>>> 
>>>> The movie was unimaginative, but Rahman has often done great
>>>> work for films that are flat out bad. If nothing else, we could
>>>> say that the songs were good. But while watching Couples
>>>> Retreat, I forgot about Rahman's compositions. It is so much in
>>>> the background, that it is barely audible. His music does
>>>> nothing to enhance the situations in the film. It is a complete
>>>> waste.
>>>> 
>>>> Last year, Boyle told me that he admired the loud soaring
>>>> sounds in Bollywood movies. In Hollywood films, the music tends
>>>> to be subtle and quieter, he added. That does not help Rahman's
>>>> case in Couples Retreat, where his talent is almost
>>>> unrecognisable.
>>>> 
>>>> Why did Rahman take three months, composing sounds which hardly
>>>> matter in the film? Why did the producers hire him from the
>>>> pool of composers in Hollywood? Was Rahman supposed to add
>>>> prestige to what was perceived as a weak project? And why did
>>>> Rahman accept this film as his first post-Oscars project? Was
>>>> it just for money? And is money that important for Rahman at 
>>>> this stage in his life and career?
>>>> 
>>>> These are questions that all of his fans should be asking.
>>>> 
>>>> *Aseem Chhabra is a freelance writer based in New York who has
>>>> previously written for The New York Times, The Boston Globe,
>>>> Philadelphia Inquirer and Time Out, New York* 
>>>> http://www.ahmedabadmirror.com/index.aspx?page=article&sectid=56&contentid=2009101120091011000754187481e865d&sectxslt

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