not writing an essay means I just dont wish to impose and trying to scratch my brains to convince. It doesnt require any courage to key in whatever the mind thinks it only requires a simple thought of what its audience would feel. You must read the feedbacks for those essays by Arundati Roy. A free internet and space doesnt mean you have to fill garbage.
--- In [email protected], V S Rawat <vsra...@...> wrote: > > On 5/1/2010 4:28 PM India Time, _ravi_ wrote: > > > > > I dont write to like an essay, > > that needs to think over a lot of things to collect thoughts and then > to feel confident about your conclusion to gather courage to say iit > in words and then to share it with the world. Not many can do that in > today's rush world of instant pleasures. > > > > but I simply understand Blue was > > Blue and Raavn is Raavan. > > right, just like Himesh's music is himesh's music and anu malik's > music is anu malik's music, and pritam's music is pritam's music and > so on. And like Dil Se was Dil Se, and Bombay was Bombay, and so on. > > You are saying that you are treating all films and music and songs > individually and don't group them by commanalties or differences. > > > Ar gave appropriate music and those who > > appreciated both the music just loved its music and they just did > > not hate Blue just bcs the lyrics wasnt from the Urdu Poet. We > > loved the music and just thats it. > > not many bother about the philosophy or concept behind a song or an > album or a movie. We tend to like them isolating that from the rest of > the world, but that is not really correct as everything has its > consequences and implications. Understaning those brings some purpose > in life and makes us mature and wiser. > > -- > Rawat > > > --- In [email protected], V S Rawat<vsrawat@> > > wrote: > >> > >> Several members had appreciated Blue music. And now, the same > >> members are immersed in Raavan and praising it. > >> > >> I wonder what exactly one sees/ listens in an album to appreciate > >> it? > >> > >> Blue and Raavan are quite different. And the difference in them > >> is not just technical difference like a difference in classical > >> or bolly songs that one can like some of both categories. There > >> are deeper differences. > >> > >> I think the difference in blue and RAavan is that Blue was > >> technically great without a soul, there was no inherent unity in > >> those songs to weave the songs as a single fabric > >> > >> On the opposite extreme, Raavan is a unified album. There is a > >> underlying common theme in all songs that suggests it could be a > >> single song running for 30 minutes in raavan. Raavan is earthly. > >> Raavan has given us our ARR of 10-15 years ago back to us. > >> > >> Raavan has generated a long thread on thiruda thiruda and all > >> movies of ARR-Mani got discussed. > >> > >> Raavan is launching people on a rendezvous, down memory lane, old > >> is gold, back to the basics. > >> > >> Raavan is making people rediscover and re-explore ARR. > >> > >> What else was discussed with blue? Nothing at all, except that it > >> was a technically great album having new types of sounds. > >> > >> I think all those great and novel sounds are still there in > >> raavan, but hardly anybody is talking about greatness and novelty > >> of sounds in raavan - because there are so many things in raavan > >> to be talked about that its technical supremacy seems to have > >> taken a back seat low down in the list of priorities of things > >> that we love to discuss about music, about ARR's music. > >> > >> Nobody has so far asked "where is ARR's signature in Raavan", the > >> way we had asked where ARR's signatures were in Pappu. Why so? > >> Because we all see ARR's signatures in each and every millisecond > >> of Raavan. > >> > >> At the time of release of Blue, ARR had given a message about > >> people's high expectations after his oscars. > >> > >> I had written then here that if ARR is thinking of people > >> expectations and about oscar, it is a wrong step. I had said that > >> ARR should forget people and forget oscars when he enters his > >> studio and he should create what his heart says. > >> > >> Oscars didn't make ARR creative, ARR's creativity brought Oscars > >> to him. > >> > >> Compare that to Raavan release. No statement by ARR, no mention > >> of people's expectations, no mention of oscar (and even grammy) > >> now. Raavan got released without a word from ARR. > >> > >> And Raavan has stirred the ARR-fandom like none of his albums > >> had stirred in last 10 years, may be after Dil Se. > >> > >> I think, with Raavan, ARR has forgotten about people's > >> expectations and he has put his awardee status in a corner. He is > >> back to become pre-oscar ARR. And his creativity is evident in > >> every beat of Raavan. A creativity that has a soul, unlike the > >> sheer technical creativity of blue. > >> > >> Why should ARR explain his music the way he did in Blue? His > >> music explains itself to us fans and we understand by listening > >> his music when our souls are in touch with ARR's souls and when > >> we are not in touch. > >> > >> Blue was a album composed by an Oscar winner whereas Raavan is > >> an album composed by a humble human being who is a music lover. > >> > >> It can be said that ARR experimented a lot with Blue. And, an > >> experiment never fails. It just gives feedback about our > >> theories, confirming some, disproving some other. Seems ARR has > >> taken that feedback of blue and has incorporated it in his style > >> of composition (not the blue style, but the feedback on blue > >> style) to come up with Raavan that has turned out to be abashed > >> heart-stealer. > >> > >> With so many conceptual differences in Blue and Raavan that make > >> both the ablums almost mutually exclusive, how can a person > >> liking blue can now like raavan also, and how can a person liking > >> raavan might have liked blue also? > >> > >> Those persons who appreciates everything, their appreciations > >> get discounted and they are seen as creating a hype. Everything > >> can't be equally great. Such persons need to individually > >> introspect and find what he stands for and what he doesn't > >> identify with, and then appreciate certain things that he stands > >> for and criticize certain things that he doesn't identify with. > >> People can make out what is forced appreciation and what is undue > >> criticism. -- > >> > >> Thanks a gig to Mani, he had given us ARR for the first time 18 > >> years ago. And he has now re-given us our very same ARR, cured of > >> oscar aberration. > >> > >> -- Rawat >
