Ok, so you give them (Public) permissions to the form (visible or
hidden, doesn't matter) and you give them read only permissions to the
fields (Public read, APP-Administrator write).  Visibility of the
forms or fields don't offer any protection from what can be done with
the api; which is what everything is built upon.

This way anyone can read the data, but only APP-Administrator can
change it.  Again, has nothing to do with the visibility of the form
or fields.

Axton Grams

On 4/19/06, Brian Bishop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Axton,
>
> I have to disagree with you. If I want a form to hold data which menus will
> be built from, I don't want anybody being able to change the data accept
> those given access to the form, like APP-Administrator. But to allow menus
> to be built for all users I have to give access to them to the actual data.
> Hence using Public Hidden access on the form. How can you explain away the
> word "hidden" if a macro will quite happily make it visible!
>
> All it is hiding it from is the list of forms on the Object List.
>
> Brian Bishop
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Axton
> Sent: 19 April 2006 17:38
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Hidden permissions
>
> Hidden does not imply any type of security what-so-ever.  If you realy
> need to protect/restrict something then revoke/apply the permissions
> appropriately.  Same goes for fields as well.
>
> Axton Grams
>
> On 4/19/06, Brian Bishop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > **
> >
> >
> > Hi Sarah,
> >
> >
> >
> > This issue is also applicable to the User Tool. If you write a macro to
> open
> > a form, as a basic user,  and then amend the macro to open a form with
> just
> > "Public Hidden" access it will open and give you access to the data. I
> > raised this as a security issue with Remedy but was told it was "as
> > designed" so had to raise an enhancement requesting the facility to be
> able
> > to create forms  that users can access data in but not be able to open.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mind you I thought that was what hidden forms were!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Brian Bishop
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> >
> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evans, Sarah (Outsourcing)
> > Sent: 19 April 2006 10:18
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Hidden permissions
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi
> >
> >
> >
> > I've found on the product defects this:
> >
> >
> >
> > ID SW00222152: It is still in the status of New.
> >
> >
> >
> > The form can still be accessed through Mid-Tier directly if Hidden
> > permissions are set on the form.
> >
> >
> >
> > Has the person who logged it heard anything back from Remedy?  If so what
> > did they say?
> >
> >
> >
> > Also anyone at Remedy is there a time estimate for this fix?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > Sarah
> >
> >
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