** Stephen,

That is exactly what I would like to do. I am a one person shop at this point so I don't have to worry about locking code but I love having defs for reference and restoration. Currently I export a def of the app I am working on after I have made considerable change and also export a complete def of the server every once in a while.

This is great timing. I have been thinking about this a lot lately and have been meaning to look and see if there is a CLI for admin tool (just did, there is). Could you give me some more details on how you have automated this process?

Thanks,
Jason

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This solution might not give you the granularity you require, but...  Another option that is close to a CVS solution is automated periodic exports of workflow.  Every night my system exports all ARS objects to a .def file, then moves the .def file into a .zip file.  The filename includes the date/time of the backup. 
 
HTH
 
Stephen


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matthew White
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 6:59 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Remedy integration with CVS

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Tim,

 

            Without getting into a back and forth…  In whole, source control is a good thing.  In fact, if you do work in the financial, insurance or pharmaceutical companies it is mandated.

 

While Remedy doesn't play 100% nice with MS SourceControl the good points outway the bad points IMO.   From what I am reading below (i.e., people on vacation) it sounds like a process issue more than anything.  I am not sure who doesn't like the idea of being able to look at the differences between code for a given object from one point to another to track down a root cause and/or potential bug.  Moreover, I enjoy having the ability to rollback to a previous version of an object with a few clicks.

 

Matt White

White Consulting, Inc.

201.248.0438

 


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tim Widowfield
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:40 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Remdy integration with CVS

 

Or you could try the CVS proxy plug-in for SCC.  (SCC is Microsoft's API/protocol for SourceSafe.)  I've played with it on development AR servers, and it works OK.  I've never tried it for extended periods or on production servers.  Still, it's a nice little tool...

   http://www.pushok.com/soft_cvs_proxy.php

On the whole I have an ambivalent attitude toward source control on ARS.  It gives other development groups and managers (the PHBs) the mistaken impression that we actually have "source."  In reality, we have the opposite of source code -- we're storing exported, rendered definition files.  There is no AR preprocessor.  There is no AR compiler.

I will grant you that it's nice to be able to lock out code that's under construction.  However, I've experienced two kinds of events in which SourceSafe really gets in the way of productive work.  First, I've been stuck with AR objects that are checked out (locked) by people who left on vacation.  That's a pain, but not a real killer.  Second, I've been on projects where SourceSafe has crashed.  There's a good reason why Microsoft's internal development teams don't use SourceSafe...  It isn't reliable and it doesn't scale.  At least this was the state of affairs throughout the late 90s and the early 00s.  If SourceSafe has recently gotten more reliable and scalable, that's nice.  (But I kinda doubt it...  I mean, consider the "source.")

 

Tim Widowfield
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http://www.widowfield.com

 

----- Original Message ----
From: Matthew White <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 9:03:33 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSLIST] Remdy integration with CVS

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Balaji,

 

            Good luck! ;)

 

            In short, you would have to export each object into a def file and Checkout/Commit via command line or IDE (i.e., WinCVS).  This is a place where Remedy/BMC just falls short…

 

Matt

White Consulting, Inc.

 


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Balaji
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 8:01 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Remdy integration with CVS

 

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Hello,

I want to integrate remedy with CVS. Has any one does this integration before and can you pls share details as how to go about it.

 

regards

Balaji

 

 

 

 


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