To answer your first question, the thing I have always liked about Remedy
was that I never had to tell a customer that Remedy couldn't be made to
conform to existing business practices.  With ITSM 7, I'm not sure that
would still be the case.  In any event, the corporate ITIL initiative would
be the driver on this, not BMC, IMO.

This may be just my opinion, but I think that a lot of companies are having
to decide whether to jump on ITSM 7 or stay with 6 for the foreseeable
future, and customizing it to fit their needs.  For companies not really
into ITIL, they just don't see the value add to retrain everyone on a new
app. and end up with no discernable value for the money they invested in
consultants and training to upgrade.

So I'm seeing two large buckets of work out there - Fresh ITSM 7
installations and ITSM 6 customizations.  The first thing I thought of when
I saw ITSM 7 almost a year ago was that Remedy PS was going to make a mint
doing the installation and customizations, because few customers will have
enough staff time to invest in learning it well enough to make anything
resembling a major customization to it.  The fact that until very recently,
only BMC and its partners were able to even get the training on how to
install and configure it only cements that impression.

So for those with limited budgets and/or no compelling ITIL initiative,
staying with ITSM 6 is probably a better bet.  ITSM 7 will cost a bunch to
get in place, and a bunch more to change as time goes on.  And that's not
even taking into consideration the potential upgradeability of the
v7 application, which is a complete unknown at this point.

Rick

On 1/26/07, Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CG/SCWOE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

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Hi list:

I apologize for not being a more active participant of the ARS list
community recently…work has had me tied up more in red tape than in real
development lately.

Anyway, I put this in as off topic, but I think it's only a bit off
topic.  I would like to get any and all viewpoints on the subject of
implementing ITSM vs. another product or a custom product.  Specifically,
how do you feel about the following points (some are from a devil's advocate
perspective):

-          ITSM 7.0 was overhauled from the previous version to be "ITIL
compliant".  An organization that does not want to embrace the ITIL model,
however, is stuck because BMC only supports so many versions back.
Eventually support is dropped on the non-ITIL compliant versions.  Thus,
doesn't the vendor effectively control your organization's process and not
the other way around? What are your thoughts on that?

-          ITSM 7.0 has some 26,000 code objects (forms, ALs, filters, and
escalations).  Doesn't that make the tool nearly impossible to reverse
engineer? And a bear to customize?

-          Isn't customization unavoidable…especially in large enterprises
with longstanding, proven business practices?

-          If customization is unavoidable, how do you handle
configuration control? That is, how do you know the next version won't wipe
out all the work you did on your customizations?

All thoughts and opinions are much appreciated.

Norm


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