How about becoming an "Official BMC/Remedy Patch of the day Testing
Partner"?

I don't mind doing these things as long as it is "Pre-Release / BETA"
code I could understand the bugs, but the issues that are being
discovered and discussed openly on this list are simply mounting and
mounting. For example, DST Patch 20 for 6.3 how many "new bugs" were
discovered / reported and fixed?

Now patch 21 is out? How long until the threads run long on "patch 21
issue # 12345" and then patch 22 is out?

BMC/Remedy is forgetting that companies actually use "Change Management
Processes / Release Cycles" for DEV --> TEST --> PROD. They cannot come
out and say on March 9 to please install patch 22 to correct all DST
issues...

Now that Patch 21 has come out, we are like a "herd of squirrels in a
nut factory" (or is that "15 drunken monkeys with a jigsaw puzzle and no
picture?") getting this online in DEV so we can 'development team test'
and then migrate the change (read run setup.exe's) in the TEST
Environments (x3 globally) so it can "cook the proper time" before
taking into production environments (x3)...

Combine 6.3 issues, with now our 7.0.x project running, and "patch /
release of the day" happening in Version 7 as well, my patience is
running extremely thin here, so Axton YOU ARE NOT ALONE HERE...

Now combine the frustrations caused by lack of documentation (ITSM 7
"administration" topic of Mr. Strauss [You are not alone here either!])
it is simply growing and growing in frustration levels, especially when
(tick tock) you think that in 6 months at RUG-2007 (whoops BUG-2007 [BMC
User Group]) they will probably be showing us "ARS 7.5 and ITSM 8.0" as
the "latest and greatest"... I think we will never be able to "catch up"
and will always be the "patch of the day / Major Release of the year"
behind the curve :(

Sorry for the "long soapbox session" but I do feel much better now :)

Thanks-n-advance; 
HDT Platform Incident / Problem Manager & Architect 
Robert Molenda 
IT OS PA 
Tel: +1 408 503 2701 
Fax: +1 408 503 2912 
Mobile: +1 408 472 8097 
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Quality begins with your actions.


-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Warren Baltimore
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Remedy Support/Engineering

I'm starting wonder if the only difference between Peregrine and BMC
is the pace in which they took in killing a great product....

just sayin....

On 2/28/07, Axton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What do you think would be a fair asking price from BMC to offer a
> support level where engineers are dedicated to fix bugs in the product
> when they are discovered?
>
> 30, 50, 100, 500%...
>
> How about 15-20% ?
>
> Sorry, just venting because I am really getting burned by defects in
> the products.
>
> Axton
>
>
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Remedy Developer
UW Medicine IT Services
School of Medicine
University of Washington
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