OT: System Names and "Fat Fingers"...

This seems like a very common thing in-deed...

Unfortunately our data center guys like using very goofy names like
sjcsair9 or mucsvr10 which mean only limited information to them (3
digit airport code of data center, S=Server,a=physical |
v=virtual,i=IIS,r=production (why not P?) and nn of numbers)...

Yah Right, like I can remember this. Our excel sheet(s) look really
goofy also. Especially when we add additional servers to the
load-balancer then the nn's are all wacked out!

Then throw in the named SQL Server instances so you have a goofy Server
Name\Goofy Database Name... does MUCSV05\rdev07 mean anything to you?

However, what we DO HAVE is DNS-Aliases which are useful "RemedyV6Dev",
"ITSM7Dev", (but you need to be careful with the "Application Server"
$SERVER$ tests :( )

However, we also to protect TEST and PRODUCTION have the "Disable Admin
Operations" set, unless we are doing a migration. Yes, it is a pain, but
step 1 = enable admin operations, step last = disable admin operations.

HTH

Thanks-n-advance; 
HDT Platform Incident / Problem Manager & Architect 
Robert Molenda 
IT OS PA 
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Quality begins with your actions.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Heider, Stephen
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 6:44 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Date in Case number

OT:  I just wanted to chime in on "Guess how many times I accidentally
modified the production server in the middle of the day.", this used to
happen to me too.

What I did to avoid this is on the Home Page and one other form, I have
a window-open active link that checks the name of the server. If it's
not the production server I un-hide a field that contains "You are
logged into the DEVELOPMENT server" in bold red letters.  

Stephen 

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Widowfield
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 1:58 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Date in Case number

 If you're looking for more fuel, I can help.  Don't do it.  Matt is
right -- if at all possible, don't mess with the Request ID.

It reminds me of those silly names the IT people give printers and
servers, like "HPLJ5305RCWF" for "HP Laser Jet 5 in building 30, 5th
floor, Right Corner, by the Water Fountain."  Nobody can remember the
name and, most likely, nobody remembers why it was named that way.  Odds
are, somebody recently moved it to a different location.

I've worked at several places where the name of the production Remedy AR
server and the development server was different by only one letter.
Guess how many times I accidentally modified the production server in
the middle of the day.  (Answer:  About once a week. :-o)  Overloading
simple names with model and location information is foolish.  There's a
reason why they used to give UNIX boxes names like "ren" and "stimpy".
If a name is just as hard to remember as an IP address, you've defeated
the whole purpose of host names.  But I digress...

Generally speaking, you don't want to try to overload field values with
unrelated information.  For example, in a primary key field in a
database table, you don't want to start concatenating last names and
create dates and such.  As Matt said, if you want the Create Date, then
you can jolly well query for the Create Date.
  
--Tim 
 
----- Original Message ----
From: Steven Pataray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 12:14:42 AM
Subject: Re: [ARSLIST] Date in Case number 
 
** I can create a character field that displayes the HDyyyyddmm using
the LPAD and DATENUM functions in an Active link but I don't know how to
get the next Entry ID since the LASTID would get the last entry id since
I have to use Execute On After Submit. How could I be sure that I'll
always get the correct sequence number if it's After Submit since
someone else could possibly submit before the transaction is complete?

 
Thanks guys, I can use your recommendations to fuel my justification not
to do this. 
Steve 
 
 
On 4/22/07, Rick Cook < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I agree with Matt -
see if he can get by with just a displayed number that's formatted like
he wants - create a new field into which to dump that reformatted Entry
ID without mucking with what you already have.  You could maybe
compromise by agreeing to send that new field out in a few key
notifications and/or use it for reports, without having to rebuild all
of the workflow associated with Field ID #1. 
 
Rick 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 6:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Date in Case number  
 
Steven, 
 
I would strongly suggest that you NOT alter the field 1 value. Add a new
field. Do your business logic there and then propagate those changes to
the table fields/forms of interest too. Simply add the time/cost of all
of those changes and inform your management of the impact to the
application and any future upgrades. See how much they think this is
really worth. 
 
Generally I find that when you can use existing functionality (AKA: 
 'Create Date') and not have to do additional, expensive, and difficult
to maintain "enhancements" appeals to most management types. 
 
--
Carey Matthew Black
Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy) 
 
Love, then teach
Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two. 
 
 
On 4/20/07, Steven Pataray <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: 
> ** My managment would like to have a date included our HelpDesk Case 
> number i.e. HD20070420xxxxx. The xxxxx would be the actual sequential
case 
number. 
> They would use this so they know what day a ticket was created. I  
> really don't want to create another field with this number appended to

> each other since a lot of the reports and table queries are based on
the 
Case number. 
> Does anyone have any advise how I can achieve this?  
> 
> Thanks 
> Steve 
> 
> ARS/HelpDesk 6.3 patch 19 
> Oracle 10g R1 Clustered 
> Application server Windows 2003 
 
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