Thanks Marc!  Not only do you have to have the Primary Form set, but you
have to have an entry point set on that form.  I figured setting the Access
Point for the app, and the a Primary Form was enough.  And then you still
have to set the Default Home Form in the server or the clients if you use
something other than a "Home Page".  

Thanks again,
Brian

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Cool.  In the Application Properties on the Forms tab, do you have a primary
form selected.  I set an access point but left the Primary Form selection
blank and got the same behavior that you did.  However, when I set the
Primary Form, the behavior changed to what I expected.

Marc


On 6/19/07, Brian Gillock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Marc,
>        From the application listed in the object list.
>
>        I reread about applications and permissions last night and didn't
> fine anything.  Please help!  :)
>
> Thanks,
> Brian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc Simmons
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:11 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Deployable Application Permissions Issue
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> Brian,
>
> How did you create the shortcut... ie from a form, or from an application?
>
> Marc
>
>
> On 6/18/07, Brian Gillock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > **
> >
> > Listers,
> >
> >                 I've been working on an application for a long while,
> and
> > only ever opened it up by opening the user tool, the object list, then
> the
> > apps "Home Page".  It never occurred to me that, it would act any
> > differently from a shortcut to the application.  Now, I'm testing the
> > application shortcut and it's not bringing up Primary Form.  It pops
> open
> a
> > default home page with the message no applications or entry
> points.  Under
> > application properties there is a primary form set, and that primary
> form
> is
> > added as an access point.  Permissions are set for all roles for access.
> > And the state of the app is maintenance (though I have tried production
> as
> > well).  The groups are mapped to the roles.  The primary form is also
> set
> > for entry point in search mode.  If I put the user in the Administrators
> > group, it opens the primary form, but in New mode.   The users all work
> fine
> > if I go straight user tool and open the primary form from the object
> list.
> >
> >
> >
> > Any help would be greatly appreciated!
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Brian
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> <div>Brian,</div>
> <div>&nbsp;</div>
> <div>How did you create the shortcut... ie from a form, or from an
> applicat=
> ion?</div>
> <div>&nbsp;</div>
> <div>Marc<br><br>&nbsp;</div>
> <div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 6/18/07, <b
> class=3D"gmail_sendername">=
> Brian Gillock</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ">b=
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]</a>&gt; wrote:</span>
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>
>
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
> ;&nbsp;&nbsp; I've been working on an application for a long while, and
> onl=
> y ever opened it up by opening the user tool, the object list, then the
> app=
> s "Home Page".&nbsp; It never occurred to me that, it would act any
> differe=
> ntly from a shortcut to the application.&nbsp; Now, I'm testing the
> applica=
> tion shortcut and it's not bringing up Primary Form.&nbsp; It pops open a
> d=
> efault home page with the message no applications or entry points.&nbsp;
> Un=
> der application properties there is a primary form set, and that primary
> fo=
> rm is added as an access point.&nbsp; Permissions are set for all roles
> for=
> access.&nbsp; And the state of the app is maintenance (though I have
> tried=
> production as well).&nbsp; The groups are mapped to the roles.&nbsp; The
> p=
> rimary form is also set for entry point in search mode.&nbsp; If I put the
> =
> user in the Administrators group, it opens the primary form, but in New
> mod=
> e.&nbsp; &nbsp;The users all work fine if I go straight user tool and open
> =
> the primary form from the object list.
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> ank you,</font></font></p>
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<div>Cool.&nbsp; In the Application Properties on the Forms tab, do you have
a primary form selected.&nbsp; I set an access point but left the Primary
Form selection blank and got the same behavior that you did.&nbsp; However,
when I set the Primary Form, the behavior changed to what I expected.
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Marc<br><br>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 6/19/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Brian
Gillock</b> &lt;<a
href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]
com</a>&gt; wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px
0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px
solid">Marc,<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; From the application
listed in the object list.<br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I
reread about applications and permissions last night and didn&#39;t
<br>fine anything.&nbsp;&nbsp;Please
help!&nbsp;&nbsp;:)<br><br>Thanks,<br>Brian<br><br>-----Original
Message-----<br>From: Action Request System discussion
list(ARSList)<br>[mailto:<a
href="mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a>
] On Behalf Of Marc Simmons<br>Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:11 AM<br>To:
<a href="mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a><br>Subject: Re:
Deployable Application Permissions
Issue<br><br>------=_Part_60361_19971289.1182258669057
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format=flowed<br>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit<br>Content-Disposition:
inline<br><br>Brian,<br><br>How did you create the shortcut... ie from a
form, or from an application?
<br><br>Marc<br><br><br>On 6/18/07, Brian Gillock &lt;<a
href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]
com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; **<br>&gt;<br>&gt;
Listers,<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I&#39;ve been working on an
application for a long while, and
<br>&gt; only ever opened it up by opening the user tool, the object list,
then the<br>&gt; apps &quot;Home Page&quot;.&nbsp;&nbsp;It never occurred to
me that, it would act any<br>&gt; differently from a shortcut to the
application.&nbsp;&nbsp;Now, I&#39;m testing the
<br>&gt; application shortcut and it&#39;s not bringing up Primary
Form.&nbsp;&nbsp;It pops open<br>a<br>&gt; default home page with the
message no applications or entry points.&nbsp;&nbsp;Under<br>&gt;
application properties there is a primary form set, and that primary form
<br>is<br>&gt; added as an access point.&nbsp;&nbsp;Permissions are set for
all roles for access.<br>&gt; And the state of the app is maintenance
(though I have tried production as<br>&gt; well).&nbsp;&nbsp;The groups are
mapped to the roles.&nbsp;&nbsp;The primary form is also set
<br>&gt; for entry point in search mode.&nbsp;&nbsp;If I put the user in the
Administrators<br>&gt; group, it opens the primary form, but in New
mode.&nbsp;&nbsp; The users all work<br>fine<br>&gt; if I go straight user
tool and open the primary form from the object list.
<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Any help would be greatly
appreciated!<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Thank you,<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Brian<br>&gt;
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or from an applicat=
<br>ion?&lt;/div&gt;<br>&lt;div&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;<br>&lt;div&gt;Marc
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;<br>&lt;div&gt;&lt;span
class=3D&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;On 6/18/07, &lt;b
class=3D&quot;gmail_sendername&quot;&gt;=
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