If it's any consolation, I had to roll 7.0.1 patch 2 back to patch 1
after the server crashed constantly.  I am on Solaris, but the net
effect is the same; something fed the arserver cyanide, then it puked
and died a horrible death.  Seems EIE and arserver have been drinking
from the same glass.

Axton Grams

On 7/10/07, Susan Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
**
Since our upgrade from ARS 5.1.2 to 7.0.1P2 on 6/27/07 I have no life.  Ok,
that's the end of my rant.

Everyday, with the exception of Sat/Sun even though there are some users on
the system, we have a thread run wild issue.  It is with the LIST threads.
This manifested itself in a arerror94 - database timeout

Of course everyone points to Remedy but it didn't feel like a Remedy issue.
I felt like network or database.  Well after 4 days of denial the other guys
finally started looking at their sides and various changes were made.
Optimizations in oracle and some minor server changes.  Yesterday we
actually ran the full high-production hours schedule without timing out.
Thought I was home free.

Well on the way home the threads started to initiate again.  And finally by
10:30p I had to restart the services because we were at 14 threads and our
max is 15.  Some sleep is required even after a v7 upgrade.

Restarting the services clears the problem.  Yesterday we ran most of the
day at 10 threads.  I check old statistics from May and that's what we were
running at then.  I know, it seems high ... that's not the issue right now.

We were having 343 errors appear after a restart which didn't seem all that
bad but apparently are VERY bad.  Those got cleared away today and we are
not seeing them anymore.

So today, it's been a horrific day.  Four times we pushed the threads to the
limit and had to restart services.

Over the last week or so I've become intimately familiar with my sql logs
again.   Looking for trends, patterns, hints.  Sometimes it seems like when
a person logs in it causes a thread to stop and restart.  Or maybe it's the
start of the thread buildup.

But what I do see periodically are the following errors.  AND I think I'm
see a pattern that after one of these there is a slow buildup of threads
from 7-11 over 20-30 minutes then 12-15 is faster.  We start seeing
hourglasses when I think we're at 14 on the way to 15.

I'd like to know what the entry below is telling me.  I've asked bmc support
but have received no answer.  I've looked in the sql logs at this time and
don't see a real pattern to what the person was doing that would drive me in
a certain direction.

Any knowledge on this you can share would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Susan Palmer
ShopperTrak

ARS v7.0.1P1
Oracle 10g
Windows 2003


Tue Jul 10 14:55:33 2007  390635 : AR System server terminated when a
signal/exception was received by the server (ARNOTE 20)
Tue Jul 10 14:55:33 2007
   Timestamp: Tue Jul 10 2007 14:55:34.1250
   Thread Id: 2664
   Version: 7.0.01 patch 002  200704021644 Apr  2 2007 20:12:39
   ServerName: remsrv
   Database: SQL -- Oracle
   Hardware: Intel Pentium
   OS: Windows NT 5.2
   RPC Id: 13200
   RPC Call: 34 (EXP)
   RPC Queue: 390635
   Client: User AdamsT from Remedy User (protocol 9) at IP address 10.0.4.68
   Form:
   Logging On: API SQL Thread
   Code: c0000005
   Operation: read
   Access Addr: 736C6C69
   Stack Begin:
   Stack End

Tue Jul 10 14:55:33 2007  390635 : AR System server terminated when a
signal/exception was received by the server (ARNOTE 20)
Tue Jul 10 14:55:33 2007     0xc0000005
Tue Jul 10 14:55:33 2007  390635 : AR System server terminated -- fatal
error encountered (ARNOTE 21)

Thread log that relates to the above error from a timing perspective:

<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 14:15:16.3430 */ Thread Id 3108 (thread number
21) application statistics thread started.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 14:55:34.3430 */ Thread Id 2664 (thread number
16) on LIST queue died.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 14:55:34.3430 */ Thread Id 4864 (thread number
16) on LIST queue restarted.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 14:57:39.8750 */ Thread Id 5784 (thread number
22) on LIST queue started.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 14:59:05.8750 */ Thread Id 5640 (thread number
23) on LIST queue started.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 14:59:08.0620 */ Thread Id 5568 (thread number
24) on LIST queue started.
 <THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 14:59:27.4530 */ Thread Id 5652 (thread number
25) on LIST queue started.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 15:02:14.5620 */ Thread Id 2332 (thread number
26) on LIST queue started.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 15:03: 11.6560 */ Thread Id 5328 (thread number
27) on LIST queue started.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 15:03:17.9370 */ Thread Id 4908 (thread number
28) on LIST queue started.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 15:23:11.9370 */ Thread Id 5704 (thread number
29) on LIST queue started.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 15:26:09.5460 */ Thread Id 964 (thread number  30)
on LIST queue started.






This thread terror occurred today too.  First time FAST  threads have been
involved:

<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:11:11.7650 */ Thread Trace Log -- ON
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:11:11.7810 */ Thread Id 5856 (thread number
0) Thread Manager started.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:11: 11.7810 */ Thread Id 3236 (thread number
1) timed call thread started.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:11:11.7810 */ Thread Id 5236 (thread number
2) on ADMIN queue started.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:11: 37.7030 */ Thread Id 5740 (thread number
3) on ALERT queue started.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:11:37.7030 */ Thread Id 5384 (thread number
4) on ESCALATION queue started.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:11: 37.7030 */ Thread Id 5880 (thread number
5) on FAST queue started.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:11:37.7030 */ Thread Id 3256 (thread number
6) on FAST queue started.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:11:37.7030 */ Thread Id 3432 (thread number
7) on FAST queue started.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:11:37.7030 */ Thread Id 4812 (thread number
8) on FAST queue started.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:11:37.7030 */ Thread Id 3692 (thread number
9) on FAST queue started.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:11:37.7030 */ Thread Id 904 (thread number  10)
on FAST queue started.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:11:37.7030 */ Thread Id 4508 (thread number
11) on LIST queue started.
 <THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:11:37.7030 */ Thread Id 4816 (thread number
12) on LIST queue started.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:11:37.7030 */ Thread Id 5792 (thread number
13) on LIST queue started.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:11: 37.7030 */ Thread Id 4120 (thread number
14) on LIST queue started.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:11:37.7030 */ Thread Id 4216 (thread number
15) on LIST queue started.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:11:37.7030 */ Thread Id 2960 (thread number
16) on LIST queue started.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:11:37.7030 */ Thread Id 2832 (thread number
17) license monitor thread started.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:11: 37.7030 */ Thread Id 5104 (thread number
18) archive thread started.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:11:37.7180 */ Thread Id 4960 (thread number
19) computed group call thread started.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:11: 37.7180 */ Thread Id 5340 (thread number
20) server statistics thread started.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:11:37.7180 */ Thread Id 4940 (thread number
21) application statistics thread started.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:40: 36.1400 */ Thread Id 5880 (thread number
5) on FAST queue died.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:40:36.1400 */ Thread Id 5372 (thread number
5) on FAST queue restarted.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:40:36.1400 */ Thread Id 5372 (thread number
5) on FAST queue died.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:40:36.1400 */ Thread Id 4196 (thread number
5) on FAST queue restarted.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:40:36.1710 */ Thread Id 4812 (thread number
8) on FAST queue died.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:40:36.1710 */ Thread Id 884 (thread number   8)
on FAST queue restarted.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:40:38.6710 */ Thread Id 3692 (thread number
9) on FAST queue died.
 <THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:40:38.6710 */ Thread Id 1996 (thread number
9) on FAST queue restarted.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:40:59.2500 */ Thread Id 4120 (thread number
14) on LIST queue died.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:40: 59.2500 */ Thread Id 5860 (thread number
14) on LIST queue restarted.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:41:39.4060 */ Thread Id 4216 (thread number
15) on LIST queue died.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:41:39.4060 */ Thread Id 5108 (thread number
15) on LIST queue restarted.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:41:42.9840 */ Thread Id 2960 (thread number
16) on LIST queue died.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:41:42.9840 */ Thread Id 2700 (thread number
16) on LIST queue restarted.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:42:19.5150 */ Thread Id 3256 (thread number
6) on FAST queue died.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:42:19.5150 */ Thread Id 2108 (thread number
6) on FAST queue restarted.
 <THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:42:36.1710 */ Thread Id 3432 (thread number
7) on FAST queue died.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:42:36.1710 */ Thread Id 4064 (thread number
7) on FAST queue restarted.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:42: 46.6090 */ Thread Id 480 (thread number
22) on FAST queue started.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:42:58.3590 */ Thread Id 4700 (thread number
23) on FAST queue started.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:43:05.3430 */ Thread Id 4816 (thread number
12) on LIST queue died.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:43:05.3430 */ Thread Id 5756 (thread number
12) on LIST queue restarted.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:43:13.6710 */ Thread Id 356 (thread number  24)
on FAST queue started.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:43:13.7180 */ Thread Id 904 (thread number  10)
on FAST queue died.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:43:13.7180 */ Thread Id 2812 (thread number
10) on FAST queue restarted.
 <THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:43:25.6870 */ Thread Id 6140 (thread number
25) on FAST queue started.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:43:31.7180 */ Thread Id 3960 (thread number
26) on FAST queue started.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:43: 41.7810 */ Thread Id 2484 (thread number
27) on FAST queue started.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:46:39.1870 */ Thread Id 5384 (thread number
4) on ESCALATION queue died.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:46: 39.1870 */ Thread Id 3704 (thread number
4) on ESCALATION queue restarted.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:48:45.8750 */ Thread Id 5792 (thread number
13) on LIST queue died.
<THRD> /* Tue Jul 10 2007 13:48: 45.8750 */ Thread Id 824 (thread number
13) on LIST queue restarted.

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