First, I thank the maintainers and contributors for this list and community;
I have learned much over the years and tried to help when I could.  Next,
thanks to James Croom especially but to all others who suggested I use a web
service and XML client program to communicate with a non-compatible
platform.

Third...I still think Remedy has moved from world-class to third-world-class
support service by outsourcing it to India and I speak especially about
getting help over the telephone.  The connections are problematic (static,
volume, phase shifts), the accents of the speakers are too strong for
American listeners to translate, especially on technical terms, and the fast
vocal cadence of Indian speakers renders it virtually impossible to get
phone service.

I really think that if I had been talking to some of the old Remedy support
personnel in upstate California they would have come up with that workaround
on the first time we talked instead of me fighting with support for a week
and getting nothing but "not supported" before going to the arslist for
help.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Worthington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: API libraries for Solaris on X86.

>If any of you guys have ideas on jar dependency hell and simplifying it 
-- you're welcome to share those with us and recommend us pursue certain 
technique/idea/product(s) to simplify the AR API deployment bundle.

What a refreshingly wonderful statement.  Comments like this plus 
initiatives like the BMC Open Source projects/BMCDN and Mr. Easter's 
recent survey help me keep my Remedy/BMC hopes alive.  "Maybe they do 
listen to customers..."

Thanks Appajee!

-tony


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Jarl

Yes, while implementing stuff in Java and our impulse to use available 
libraries/infrastructure rather than creating our own -- had the 
unfortunate side effect of adding numerous JAR file dependencies (for 
example, to apache stuff, logging, rpc and so on). Given that we have not 
quite removed the native library dependencies -- in the end, the 
dependency list in fact is increased in 7.1 release. 

Hopefully in a future release, not only we'll remove the native 
dependencies but also simplify the external jar dependencies (by building 
some kind of all-inclusive arapi jar file(s)). If any of you guys have 
ideas on jar dependency hell and simplifying it -- you're welcome to share 
those with us and recommend us pursue certain technique/idea/product(s) to 
simplify the AR API deployment bundle.

Regards
Appajee


-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jarl Grøneng
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 11:44 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: API libraries for Solaris on X86.

Wow, this is just awesome!

How many jars are needed to run a version 7.1 java program? I suspect
tons of them :-)

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Jarl


On 7/25/07, Papolu, Appajee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sure you can.
>
> In fact in the 7.1 Java API, we have implemented the necessary rpc 
version mapping infrastructure as well, but it is validated for 7.0/7.0.1 
only. What that means is -- the client program runs the pure Java code in 
issuing AR API's underlying RPC calls when interacting with servers of 
version 7.0 or greater. However if the client is interacting with older 
servers (say 6.3 or even older), then the Java API silently falls back to 
delegating the calls to underlying JNI code, which in turn calls C API 
which has rich implementation of RPC version mapping. All of this happens 
transparently to client program any ways, so in essence, the Java API 
clients of 7.1 version can indeed talk to same or older or newer versions 
of Server as were before. Only thing is that for legacy server 
interactions, the Java API relies on its legacy infrastructure (JNI/C API 
combo) in 7.1 release.  In future, as indicated in previous email note, 
this will change (i.e. improve RPC version mapping layer within Java API) 
so that this native dependency is also eliminated.
>
> Hope this helps.
> Appajee
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jarl Grøneng
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 10:50 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: API libraries for Solaris on X86.
>
> Appajee,
>
> Can you connect from 7.1 java api to a 7.01 server?
>
> --
> Jarl
>
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