what is up,,,just got off the phone with mutarelli...> Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 
16:08:29 -0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Providing Read/Write 
Access Without Buying Licenses? I Doubt It> To: [email protected]> > That's 
the way it is in the ITSM suites (at least pre-7.0...I haven't seen> the 7.0 
inner workings yet). A filter sets the Submitter to the Requester's> login 
name. > > Tim> > -----Original Message-----> From: Action Request System 
discussion list(ARSList)> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of L. J. Head> 
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 3:59 PM> To: [email protected]> Subject: Re: 
Providing Read/Write Access Without Buying Licenses? I Doubt It> > Or another 
'option' they might suggest is to provide an option on submit of> 'who do you 
want this submitted as'....then create all of the records as> that user 
ID...remember the submitter doesn't need to be $USER$...it can be> any user you 
want...I think that would fit all of the requirements to make> it user 
maintainable and not cost any more licenses and stay within the BMC> model > > 
-----Original Message-----> From: Action Request System discussion 
list(ARSList)> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Wallick> Sent: 
Wednesday, July 18, 2007 1:46 PM> To: [email protected]> Subject: Providing 
Read/Write Access Without Buying Licenses? I Doubt It> > Here's an interesting 
for for y'all.> > We have a very good and fairly long relationship with a BMC 
partner that we> use for consulting/development/purchasing and, when the time 
comes in> November or so, we will also be using them for support instead of 
BMC.> > First, a little background.> > We use Remedy Customer Support 5.6 with 
a not-too-customized version of the> Customer Access Interface deployed through 
the mid-tier. The submitter mode> on the AR server is locked, so that customers 
with account using read> licenses can submit and work their own tickets through 
the web. However, we> have many customers that insist on using the phone for 
the initial> submission of an issue, and then want to work the ticket from then 
on> through the web. You see where I'm going with this? The customer can't> 
update tickets via the web if they were not the submitter, unless they have> a 
fixed or floating license.> Floating licenses are expensive, so we've been 
reluctant to go down that> road.> > Our VP of support doesn't like the BMC 
partner that we've been using nearly> full time for the past two years (they're 
GREAT, BTW), so now this VP is> bringing in another consulting firm who claims 
that for $6400, they will> solve the customer access interface licensing 
"problem" without purchasing> any new licenses from BMC and also in a "BMC 
approved" manner.> > I call B.S.> > First, I find it hard to believe that BMC 
would allow some sort of scheme> where you can get away with not buying 
licenses and still give your customer> base read/write access to their 
tickets.> > Second, how else would one run a server in locked submitter mode, 
while> still allowing customers to modify "their" tickets even if the ticket 
was> submitted on their behalf by a tech support agent? The first thing that> 
comes to mind would be to have a trigger or scheduled job or something at> the 
database level change the submitter column to the customer's login name> on 
insert of a new record. I seriously doubt that's a "BMC approved"> solution.> > 
Perhaps this firm is going to suggest something like having the customer's> 
"log in" but all the actual interaction with ARS will be proxied through a> 
single user with a fixed license and all the necessary permissions. But even> 
that seems like something that BMC might balk at.> > Thanks.> > Mike> > 
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