Thanks Jonathan. I took a brief look at it on
somebody's laptop and it seems helpful. I will play
with it when I can.

--- Jonathan Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Hello Listers
> 
> If you are looking to understand workflow at a
> glance you may be interested
> in using Abydos Analyser.  Download a trial here
> www.abydos-workflow.com
> 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Jonathan Young
> Technical Consultant
>  
> Abydos Ltd.
> www.abydos-workflow.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rabi Tripathi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 12 September 2007 18:25
> Subject: How you you guys analyze ITSM 7 code? Dev
> Plus? Master AR Suite? No
> logging doesn't count.
> 
> Hi all,
> Apart from the "BMC Remedy IT Service Management 7.0
> Architecture" pdf book
> on BMC's support site, what do you guys use to
> analyze ITSM workflow to
> understand and customize it?
> 
> I have done/tried the following:
> 1. Workflow Logging - always works, but very
> tedious.
> takes time to create test cases and go thru the log
> and cross ref objects in
> Remedy Admin. It's my distant friend that I mostly
> invite only for
> troubleshooting, not understaning a big chunk of
> workflow.
> 
> 2. Browse Remedy Admin - tedious, not to mention it
> pushes me closer to a
> doc visit for carpel tunnel syndrom. i never liked
> Remedy's "point and
> click"
> boast. I would rather write code in sentences so
> that in one glace I could
> easily understand a chunk of workflow. Try
> understanding what 10 filters do.
> How do you like the point and click in Remedy Admin
> this time?
> 
> For me, Remedy's strength is the macro programming
> it allows, not the point
> and click way of doing it. It sounds good only to
> the VP who is too lazy
> busy move his hand to the keyboard and assumes that
> this excellent trait
> flows down his chain of command. He's got the purse,
> so, you've got a whole
> lot of clickityclick click click to do in your
> life...
> 
> 3. Master ARSuite - whoever decided to kill this
> product, i would like to
> confront loudly one day. He better have an earplug.
> I have been able to use
> it with mixed results for some of the custom apps
> written locally in ARS 7. 
> 
> Trying to use it for ITSM 7, I can't even get a def
> file created thru Remedy
> Admin. Exporting 40 forms causes malloc error on
> server. Is this typical, or
> is my server good for nothing bum I sometimes think
> it is? Currently trying
> the export in something like 20 separate chunks. Not
> done yet.
> 
> Anybody able to do a def file of ITSM 7 in bigger
> chunks? After the def
> file, i wonder how upset Master AR Suite will be on
> meeting this new def  (I
> already know I need to strip the new header line
> about char set). And after
> I do some customization, it's another round of fun
> with def file export. Why
> ca't I use a true IDE like the ones others had in
> 90s or even 80s?
> Yeah, tell me it's coming. I have to see it.
> 
> 4. Remedy developer plus. I was able to get this to
> work with Rem admin
> 6.0.1 only. But loading objects (only Incidet
> Management) didn't finish in 2
> hours (I got 2 GB on my client pc), so I killed it.
> Is this my unlucky day,
> so I should't buy NY lottery today or is it like
> this for you guys too?
> 
> 5. I dearly miss that simple and sweet free command
> line utility...what was
> it called...arexport I think that gave you object
> details in readable
> format. I can't even remember it's name. I told you
> this was a very old
> friend.  I wish it were still around. Rest in peace,
> my friend. Your life
> was a worthy one.
> 
> Do you guys know of any other book, white paper from
> BMC. With actual object
> names, their definitions? Any luck with Master AR
> Suite or Rem Dev Plus?
> 
> If anybody wants to tell me about their superior
> product xyz that is THE
> BEST out there and would allow such analysis, that I
> should have already
> paid for sparing me this long rant...please keep it
> short, and mention the
> price. A trial version?
> 
> ITSM has turned into a monstrous beast never before
> sighted in this part of
> the world. Do we have enough ropes and shackles to
> tame this beast? Or is it
> going the natural way of the marvelous dinosaurs,
> too hefty for their own
> good? Hope not.
> 
> -Rabi Tripathi
> NYC
> 
> 
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