I'm not talking about an "Export Application"...I'm talking about go into
applications, right click on the application in question, export to def.
This will generate a def file similar to just a form export but of the
application instead....not all of the definitions of the app along with
data, blah blah blah.  Do you get the difference?  Oh...and BTW...if you use
Migrator there is a switch somewhere that tells it to migrate the app first
(same part I'm talking about) and then the form so that everything is
updated properly including permissions

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 10:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Migrating/Importing forms from Deployable apps


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Yes, I know that the application redeployment retains the perms - but I'm
trying to avoid having to re-deploy an entire application just because one
form was updated, and I am holding to a (probably vain) hope that it might
retain the perms if it already found them on the destination server.
Importing the form changes and THEN re-deploying the entire app. doesn't
sound like the improvement in the process that I'm looking for, since I
could achieve the same effect by just re-deploying in the first place. 
 
I guess what I'm saying is that I would expect that the initial installation
of a DA should be via deployment, due to the fact that the forms and
possibly the roles do not exist on the destination server, not to mention
potential licensing issues.  I mean, that encapsulation is the whole point
of the DA.  But why couldn't changes to the DA be migrated relative to what
already exists on the destination server?  If I already successfully
deployed it, and have the licenses for it, why do I have to brute force an
entire application redeployment just because 10% of it was modified? 
 
Rick
 
On 9/25/07, L. J. Head <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

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This is a chicken and egg type of problem...so requires a bit more work.
Here is the problem.  Server A has Deployable App A with Form A as a member.
Server B has Deployable App A where Form A does not belong to it.  So if you
Migrate the Form from Server A to Server B then the form is imported...but
all of it's permissions are stripped...because it is not a member of App A
on Server B....now that you have the form imported...you can now import the
App onto Server B...which will make the Form a member....now you can
re-import Form A on Server B and it will import with proper permissions in
tact. 

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[email protected]  <mailto:[email protected]> ] On Behalf Of
Rick Cook
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 9:42 AM
To: [email protected]  <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: Migrating/Importing forms from Deployable apps

 
** If I have two servers with similar sets of forms and applications already
installed, is it possible to migrate and/or Import a form that is part of a
deployable application without re-deploying the entire application AND
without losing the Roles/permissions in that migration process?  The roles
already exist for that form on both servers. 

-- 
Rick Cook

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