I also see if you have several plugins, all loads the initialize()
method when the first plugin are accessed.

I really dont like this method doing it, seems like there is a need
for several plugin-servers.

--
Jarl

On 10/4/07, Jarl Grøneng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Found this documentation, and this put a new ligth on my initial question.
>
> ---------------
> All plugins can implement a public void static init(ARPluginContext
> context) method to do all intialization for this class. This will be
> invoked once for each class that implements one of the ARPluggable
> interfaces on plugin server startup. This same thing can be
> accomplished using a static block of code in the class. The only
> advantage in implementing this method is that it gets access to the
> ARPluginContext object that can be used for the following purposes.
>
> 1. Logging any initialization messages
> 2. Fetching configuration file entries for this plugin from
> pluginsvr_config.xml file.
> 3. Get AR System configuration entries from the ar.cfg file.
>
> For all instance initialization, the public initialize(ARPluginContext
> context) should be used. The initialize method is invoked once for
> each thread instance in plugin server.
> -------------------
>
> Still i like the C plugin better then, where you have an Termination function.
>
> --
> Jarl
>
>
> On 10/4/07, Hugo Visser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ** Right, the way I read the javadoc I understand that the initialize will
> > be called once the plugin is loaded. From the javadoc I can not tell for
> > sure if that moment is the plugin server is started. It's not clear what is
> > meant with "at startup load time"...It could be the plugin server start up,
> > but it could also mean "when the plugin is first started".
> >
> > But in the end it really doesn't matter how and when it is initialized.
> > That's just an implementation detail. Just as you initialize at the correct
> > moment :) The only catch is that the initialize seems to be called once for
> > every thread that the plugin server starts (so I've been told). That isn't
> > really documented either...
> >
> > Hugo
> >
> >
> > On 10/4/07, Jarl Grøneng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have no proble understand how the plugin-server handle these
> > > funstion. But it seems that there is a difference in how a C and Java
> > > plugin behave.
> > >
> > > TAnd the plugin documentation states this:
> > > initialize(ARPluginContext context)
> > > "An initialization routine called once at startup load time for each
> > > plugin that is loaded.
> > >
> > > And this does not happend when the plugin loads, it happend when it
> > > gets accessed first time. And for each thread the plugin-server runs.
> > >
> > > The documentation should be like this:
> > > "An initialization routine called once at startup load time for each
> > > thread instance".
> > >
> > >
> > > If you add this to the plugin:
> > > public static void init(ARPluginContext context){
> > > //
> > > };
> > >
> > > It does this function when its loads. Sems like I have to move my
> > > initialization code here.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jarl
> > >
> > > On 10/4/07, Carey Matthew Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > > Jarl,
> > > >
> > > > I think there might be a bit of confusion due to the terms used...
> > > >
> > > > I think it is more like this...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ref: Integrating-710.pdf  pg 102
> > > > Figure 7-2: C plug-in call sequence
> > > >
> > > > ARPluginIdentify ()
> > > > ARPluginSetProperties ()
> > > > ARPluginInitialization ()
> > > > ARPluginCreateInstance() -- one or more times
> > > >
> > > > AREA, ARDBC, or AR Filter calls --
> > > >     I think this is per Filter Action
> > > >
> > > > ARPluginDeleteInstance ()
> > > > ARPluginTermination ()
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think... the plugin server calls the first 4 methods as soon as _it_
> > > > starts up. Then when the ARS Server talks to the Plugin Server the
> > > > only things that are done are the "AREA, ARDBC, or AR Filter calls"
> > > > portion(s) of the code.
> > > >
> > > > I think this makes some sense too. But I do not think it prevents the
> > > > "AREA, ARDBC, or AR Filter calls" from doing things like spawning new
> > > > threads (ARPluginCreateInstance() ) or other calls to the previous
> > > > methods. ( With a possible exception of the ARPluginIdentify ()
> > > > method. I doubt the Plugin Server would deal with a loaded plugin
> > > > trying to change its identity very well. But I could be wrong about.)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Then... when the Plugin server is being shut down I think the
> > > > ARPluginDeleteInstance () and ARPluginTermination () methods are
> > > > called.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So in summary "when the plugin loads" is when the Plugin Server reads
> > > > and loads the plugin into memory on startup. (And not when a Plugin
> > > > Call from the ARS server is executed.) The plugins are "standing
> > > > daemons" that wait and listen for inquiries.
> > > >
> > > > But that is just my read of things. (Reality might be very different
> > > > than what the docs indicate.)
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Carey Matthew Black
> > > > Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
> > > > ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)
> > > >
> > > > Love, then teach
> > > > Solution = People + Process + Tools
> > > > Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 10/4/07, Jarl Grøneng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Hugo,
> > > > >
> > > > > The documentation of the java plugin states this:
> > > > >
> > > > > public void initialize(ARPluginContext context) throws ARException {}
> > > > > "An initialization routine called once at startup load time for each
> > > > > plugin that is loaded. The plugin can do all its initialization and
> > > > > setup in this method."
> > > > >
> > > > > I see benefits running initialize when the plugin loads.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Jarl
> > > >
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