Making a graphical IDE that generates code on-the-fly is no easy thing.
I know--I've done it.  To "reinvent" the Remedy Admin tool by
reengineering an open source thing (like Eclipse) is a monster
undertaking.  It's not just a matter of tweaking how the Java gets
generated or tossing in a few extra features.  It would be almost a
complete rewrite, from my perspective, because the development
methodology is so different.  It's not like taking a graphical IDE that
produces Java and making it produce, say, C++.

BMC already has a perfectly functional graphical editor for developing
Remedy apps (the current Admin tool).  Why they'd scrap that and adopt
an open source product and then "soup it up" to do what they'd need it
to do to make it "Remedy" is beyond me.

Granted, I wasn't at RUG and haven't seen it yet, but it sounds bizarre
just from the description.

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Subject: Re: RUG update

Norm,

Actually there are editors (just a sub part of the Eclipse IDE) that
does graphical layout of buttons etc for Java classes. The Editor
allows you to graphically create the Java source code and back and
forth too.

So the idea that it could be used to present the user with an "active
link window" that talk to the ARS server instead of making a *.java
file seems like a very "normal" thing for the IDE to do to me.

-- 
Carey Matthew Black
Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

Love, then teach
Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two.



On Nov 2, 2007 3:02 PM, Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks.  I already knew what Eclipse is.
>
> My point is, the description of it as "an IDE for everything and
nothing
> in particular" is key to my question.
>
> Eclipse is used for all sorts of development environments, but to my
> knowledge those are all *code-based* development environments--Java,
C,
> C++, PHP, Fortran, etc.
>
> Unless BMC has some scripting language in the works for Remedy, the
> Eclipse model would have to be heavily modified to accommodate
Remedy's
> unique (and oftentimes frustrating!) point-and-click application
> development method.

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