What it really comes down to is courtesy. This is a list that is read by professional men and women of various cultures and religions from around the world. What some find as humorous may not be to others for several different reasons.
Dave -------------------------- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wireless) ----- Original Message ----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Thu Dec 06 22:06:04 2007 Subject: Re: Friday Humor (U) ** I’m going to ask a question that crossed my mind when I first read the comment from Sandra but I thought better of it at the time: What would the powers-that-be where anyone on this list works consider objectionable? The mild innuendo in my joke, the profanity in the joke prior to mine or both? Will, I like your idea and it makes sense but I’ve worked places where circumventing the IT department’s security, i.e. by going through a tunnel to an outside mail server, was much worse of an infraction than using the F-word or more imaginative innuendo in email. In fact, I’ve worked places where people got reprimanded for sending passwords in email or for restoring a hacked website before the IT forensics team got to take a look at it. I also would have to wonder what the culture must be like in a company where _receipt_ of a message on a publicly accessible message board that fell into the company’s “objectionable” policy range was cause for reprimand. Does this mean that someone could get a person they didn’t like inside the company fired by spamming them with the types of ads none of us really like to get in our inboxes? I certainly find many of those objectionable. Sandra and Gary, I take your point and I apologize if the joke offended you or anyone else on this list. However, perhaps a private message would have been more effective. Publicly pointing out a person’s mistakes in a forum such as this may not be the most salient approach. J.T. Shyman ________________________________ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Will Du Chene Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 7:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Friday Humor (U) I admit to being a bit curious... I am not trying to drag out the topic, but am just plain curious... In these environments, what are the "guidelines" for using the internet? I mean, can you surf out to a webmail site and view the contents of the list from an account such as Yahoo! Mail, or GMail or Hotmail? What about viewing the archives from one of the various sites that offer them? It's been my experience that most mail administrators are... well... Sort of like Smigel when it comes to the ring. All email is their "precious" data and they don't want it to go anywhere. Email is generally journaled, and even threaded so that the powers that be can browse a conversation chain on a whim. I don't know if routing professional list traffic to a webmail account would help your situation or not, but it might be an easy way to get around the "precious data" syndrome that converts mere mortals if you know what I mean. Another option is to run your own mail server(s), which is what I do. I am currently running Citadel (www.citadel.org <http://www.citadel.org/> ) behind an STunnel (www.stunnel.org <http://www.stunnel.org/> ) server to provide an SSL layer between the browser and the server. It works like a charm. Thu Dec 06 2007 10:36:58 PM UTC from Opela, Gary L Contr OC-ALC/ITMA to [email protected] [Reply] [ReplyQuoted] [ReplyAll] [Forward] [Headers][Print] Subject: Re: Friday Humor (U) And in order to prevent receiving a second offense, one must notify the source of the objectionable content in question lest the offender is left unbeknownst to the offense -- hence Sandra's request. Thanks, Gary Opela, Jr Sr. Remedy Developer Leader Communications, Inc. 405 736 3211 -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System dis __20060125_______________________This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ __20060125_______________________This posting was submitted with HTML in it___
