Mike,

 

There is a regular form - 'CTM:SYS-Access Permission Grps' which can be
used for fetching the right group ID against the 'Assigned Group ID'.

 

Fetch 'Permission Group ID' from the above form using the qualification
-   "  'Support_Group_ID'  = $Assigned Group ID$  " and use 'Permission
Group ID' field for sending the notification.

 

It works.

 

Thanks,

Amita

 

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Veeral Oza
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 3:02 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Problem with Group Notification Workflow

 

** 

Hi,

 

I hope this helps....

 

Findings: 

a) Group ID for CTM:Support Group and Group ID on group form are
seperate entities.

b) When a new Support Group is created on the CTM:Support Grroup form, a
record is created in the Group Form as well.

c) The Group name in the Group form contains the Group ID, which is an
integer value.

d) When any group notification is triggerred, the email engine looks up
the Group name field of the Group form.

e) The email engine does not find any match in the group form, because
the group name field contains the group ID and not the group name.

f) And therefore, group notifications fail.

 

Workarounds:

a) Modify the Group name on the Group Form: Instead of the Group ID,
this field should be populated with the Group name. A filter can be
written on the CTM:Support Group form, which modifies the Group form
when any new group is created or modified. 

Short comings of this approach: Company1-> Org1-> Group1 and
Company1->Org2->Group1 cannot exist togather. Group Name should be
unique on Group form. 

 

b) If the Group Notification (sent to the Assignment Group) is to be
fired from, say, HPD:HelpDesk, then create a new zTmp_GroupName field.
On Submit and Modify of Assignment Group field, create a filter that
reads the GroupID from CTM:SYS Access Permission form. You can query
this form by specifying Company->Org->Group to get Group form's Group
ID. In the Notify action, specify this zTmp field, instead of Assignment
Group field. 

Short comings of this approach: The administrator has to be aware of
such zTmp fields created for Group Notification purpose. 

 

Regards,

Veeral Oza

On Dec 31, 2007 8:41 PM, Payne, George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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Mike,

 

The "Send To" field is resolved in a very strict way.  From the Online
Manual:

Note: AR System resolves the contents of the User Name field by first
checking for a matching request in the User form. If found, the
notification is sent to that user. If not found, the server checks for a
matching request in the Group form. If the name corresponds to a group
name, the notification is sent to all members of that group. If no User
or Group definition is found, the contents of the User Name field are
used as is and treated as a guest user of the system. 

This all made pretty good sense before 7.0...now the "Group Name" that
it's referring to here is going to be the GROUPID (eg: 1000000089) and
not the actual name as you and I would LIKE it to be. 

 

I would suggest that you try sending your email to the Assigned Group ID
instead of the name.

 

Hope that helps,

Gp

 

George Payne

Corporate Applications Developer

Electric Reliability Council of Texas

(512) 248-3940

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Pugh
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 10:17 AM 
To: [email protected]
Subject: Problem with Group Notification Workflow 

 

I've created an escalation that should bring in a support group's name
into a Notify action so that it e-mails all members of the group. For
some reason it's not resolving the group name so it's not pushing the
notification out to all of the group's members. 

 

I've double checked the group name several times and it's fine. Incident
Management is able to send a group notification without a problem.

 

I'm passing in $Assigned Group$ to the User Name property of the Notify
action. It comes from a form I created and, for example, the form
contains "Enterprise Systems" in that field, and I have an "Enterprise
Systems" Support Group defined. 

 

I'm running ARS 7.1 and ITSM 7.0.02 patch 6. 

 

Does anyone have any clues?

 

Thanks!

 

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