Who do you think you are?!

Congress?

:)


--- J.T. Shyman

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Opela (Corporate)
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 1:38 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Salary in Bay Area

I'll be the treasurer, president, and CFO. Just pay the dues directly to me,
and I'll take care of them. I'll also audit myself to make sure I'm not
mis-using them.

Thanks,



Gary Opela, Jr., RSP

Remedy Engineer

Leader Communications, Inc.

http://www.5pointleader.com

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-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David.M Clark
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 12:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Salary in Bay Area

I feel that I should "appoint" that position...

David M Clark
Remedy Programmer/Analyst


>>> Howard Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 8/6/2008 12:32 PM >>>
So we have a pres, who will be the Treasurer.

On 8/6/08, Tim Widowfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ** Cool.  Then when the Pinkertons come to bust us up, you can fend
them
> off while we run away!
>
> --Tim
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: David.M Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 6, 2008 12:06:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [ARSLIST] Salary in Bay Area
>
> I've had my nose broken a few times... can I be a union "boss"?
>
> David M Clark
> Remedy Programmer/Analyst
>
>
> >>> Howard Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 8/6/2008 11:02 AM >>>
> Susan,
>
> The first item we need to address is how much we want to charge for
> dues.
>
> hbr
>
> On 8/6/08, Susan Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > ** I like that ... an activist in the group !!!
> >
> > Susan
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Howard Richter
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> ** Maybe we need to form a union to keep our rates up to what
they
> should
> >> be.
> >>
> >> hbr
> >>
> >>
> >>  On 8/6/08, Tortolero, Joseph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> **
> >>>
> >>> Shawn, Right ON!....
> >>>
> >>> Remedy peeps...good Remedy peeps should NOT devalue themselves...if
you
> are
> >>> willing to take 50-60 an hour you are screwing everyone by
giving
> away your
> >>> HARD earned money and devaluing our profession. The bar should
be
> set at 100
> >>> minimum an hour. And Shawn is COMPLETELY correct about that 15%,
in
> fact I
> >>> go 12% tops.  Anything more then that and you are getting
robbed.
> It's not
> >>> like we don't get 10-15 calls a week with job offers...we are
needed
> and will
> >>> be needed...set the standard, maintain the standard.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thank you,
> >>>
> >>> -j
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *Joe Tortolero*
> >>>
> >>> *Remedy Consultant*
> >>>
> >>> *Desk - 561-682-2780*
> >>>
> >>> *Cell  - 561-665-1363*
> >>>
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> **
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Pierson, Shawn
> >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 05, 2008 5:11 PM
> >>> *To:* [email protected]
> >>> *Subject:* Re: Salary in Bay Area
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> That's strange but it makes sense that the bay area would pay
less
> than
> >>> the rest of the country due to an overabundance of Remedy
people.
> You can
> >>> probably get six figures as a Remedy developer with more than
ten
> years just
> >>> about anywhere in the U.S. if you are working on ITSM, although
no
> person
> >>> with that much experience should even be supporting a home grown
> system for
> >>> less than $80k/year anywhere.  You can get that much at a job in
> Oklahoma or
> >>> Ohio, which have much lower costs of living than the bay area.
> It's all
> >>> about supply and demand though, so if you want to be paid well
you
> have to
> >>> live somewhere that has very few Remedy people available, and a
lot
> of
> >>> companies making decent money so they can pay a decent salary
too.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> As far as consulting, with 10 years of experience I would
suggest
> looking
> >>> at a minimum of $125/hour.  I know BMC charges twice that for
their
> senior
> >>> people, and a lot of the major Remedy consulting firms charge
> similar
> >>> rates.  Any consulting firm that keeps more than 15% or $15/hour
> from your
> >>> rate (depending on whether you are making more or less than
> $100/hr)  is
> >>> keeping too much.  When I first did consulting I was ripped off
a
> few times
> >>> because I went through too many layers, where you hav
e a small
> consulting
> >>> firm taking 15%, who has a deal with a larger consulting firm
> taking 15%,
> >>> who then deals directly with the client.  In fact, I remember
> working with a
> >>> guy who was being paid less than $40/hour while the client was
> paying
> >>> $150/hour only because he had three or four consulting firms in
the
> middle
> >>> who each took their cut.  When consulting, always ask who the
> direct client
> >>> is, and if they refuse to tell you or if they tell you the name
of
> another
> >>> consulting company, don't let them submit your information to
the
> client.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Shawn Pierson
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
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> >> Re
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> >> CompTIA Linux+ Certified
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