Huntsville, AL.

We have rockets, BBQ and a mountain.
I also hear we have trees that grow money-leaves, though I've yet to cultivate one myself

-Andy

On Sep 26, 2008, at 10:27 AM, Shellman, David wrote:

It's not our direct bosses.

Our company is tightening it's spending as a direct result of economic forecasts. The State of Pennsylvania is also taking similar steps. I'm sure that there are others that are also others looking at similar steps.

GMC, Ford, and Chrysler continued to build SUV's like there was no tomorrow. Suddenly the price of fuel goes up and now they can't give them away. Plants are closing. Folks are defaulting on mortgages. Banks are closing. Loans are becoming harder to get.

Now upper management says "Hmm do I send Dave to Vegas or I lay off 40 people. Next week we may need to lay off another 600. Dave can pass on Vegas."

All I'm saying is that in tough economic times is a tougher sell than going to Baltimore or San Francisco or Houston or even Boston.
Dave
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Sent: Fri Sep 26 10:56:54 2008
Subject: Re: 2008 User World

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I kinda agree. Especially since I know that Kelly's a hardworking, honest person whose demeanor doesn't scream "flake". I think maybe the boss was covering himself in case HIS boss asked for some justification for sending someone to Vegas.

Rick

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Pierson, Shawn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This isn't directly specifically at Kelly, but at everyone who is in that type of situation.


I would be offended if my boss didn't trust me enough to be professional and do my job. I don't think I would want to work for someone that didn't trust me enough to be able to go to Las Vegas for a conference and attend sessions and learn things. While your approach may work, it doesn't address the core issue of peoples' employers not believing that their people would do the right thing. That is a sign of a bad business relationship.


Shawn Pierson


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Kelly Deaver
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:13 AM

To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: 2008 User World


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If your boss bulks at Vegas (assuming that is the place) suggest they do what my boss did years ago

for a show in Las Vegas. He had me pick my list of sessions I planned to attend. I had to bring back

a complete trip report about what I learned plus a description of what each vendor in the expo did

and how it related/or not to our company. Believe me he could tell if I'd have just copied some stuff

from the slides and the show booklet (which I also had to provide to him)


BTW, I'm sending some of your choice comments to Management... no promises but I feel your pain.


Kelly Deaver

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(Yes, I work for BMC. This post reflects the opinions of the poster and not the official opinion of BMC)

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