Howard,

As others on the thread have said, the 4k limit appears to be a database
one.  The 2k limit is a bug.

Chuck

On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Howard Richter <[email protected]> wrote:

> ** Chuck,
>
> Great news, bowever, is the size limit a bug with that patch or a new
> feature going forward?
>
> Howard
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Charles Baldi <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> **
>>  All,
>> I was able to update the table query in question.  Here is what I did:
>>
>> 1.  Downgraded my Admin tool to 7.1 patch 3 (thanks Conny).  This allows
>> creation of qualification strings up to 4k (4096 chars).
>>
>> 2.  Since the OOB qual was already at 4081 chars, I could barely add the
>> EXTERNAL() before running out of room.  So I took the OOB qual and removed a
>> pile of the superfluous spaces that the Admin tool adds to the qual, such as
>> those around the "=", etc.  This got the OOB qual down to 3727 chars.
>>
>> 3.  Because I'm adding a half-dozen custom fields to the qual, the
>> addition would still put it over the 4k limit, so I added another "AND
>> EXTERNAL(custom_do_field)" and loaded my addition on Window Open. (thanks
>> Scott and others).
>>
>> The real trick was to remove the extra spaces to make room.  It is
>> important to save a copy of the "compressed" qual for later because if you
>> ever modify the table field, like to add a column, the Admin tool will barf
>> again because it will have expanded the qual with the extra spaces again so
>> that it exceeds the 4k limit.  Saving a copy avoids having to remove all the
>> spaces again.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>> Chuck Baldi
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Charles Baldi 
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for all the suggestions.  I will see what I can get to work.  FYI
>>> my Admin tool is at 7.1p4 while the ARServer is at 7.1p5.
>>>
>>> I will let you all know the result.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Chuck Baldi
>>>
>>>   On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 7:17 AM, Carey Matthew Black <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> However, you should also be warned that in at least a previous version
>>>> (v5 or was it v6 era) there was a practical limit to the length of
>>>> these qualifications. I was never clear if it was a RDBMS limitation
>>>> or an ARS limitation, but I remember a number like 4000 characters as
>>>> an upper limit to what actually works. Which was true even if you used
>>>> the EXTERNAL() operator.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Carey Matthew Black
>>>> BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (BRSP)
>>>> ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)
>>>>
>>>> Love, then teach
>>>> Solution = People + Process + Tools
>>>> Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Scott Illari <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > **
>>>> >
>>>> > Chuck,
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > I would follow these steps
>>>> >
>>>> > 1)                  Create a hidden display only character field on
>>>> the
>>>> > form. Just be sure the DB size of the field is 0 to hold the
>>>> qualification
>>>> > if it ever grows.
>>>> >
>>>> > 2)                  Update the table field so the qualification is
>>>> > EXTERNAL($Display Only Field$)
>>>> >
>>>> > 3)                  Have an Active Link set the display only field on
>>>> Window
>>>> > Open or Display or Loaded (Whichever works for you)
>>>> >
>>>> > 4)                  Have the next action perform a Change Fields that
>>>> > refreshes the table.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Hope that helps.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Scott Illari
>>>> >
>>>> > 908-601-8948
>>>> >
>>>> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/scottillari
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
>>>> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Charles Baldi
>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 5:30 PM
>>>> > To: [email protected]
>>>> > Subject: How to save huge qual string in Table / Tree Property?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > **
>>>> >
>>>> > Hello all,
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > I am trying to update the Table / Tree Property on the HPD:Incident
>>>> Assoc
>>>> > Search form to let users search for some of their custom fields.
>>>>  However,
>>>> > the Qualification string is so large that the Admin tool will not let
>>>> me add
>>>> > to it.  I can't even re-paste the original qualification back into the
>>>> field
>>>> > if I remove it.  So, BMC must have a trick for pasting a HUGE
>>>> qualification
>>>> > string here.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Does anyone know how to do this?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > ARS 7.1 p5
>>>> > ITSM 7.0.03 p8
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks in advance,
>>>> >
>>>> > Chuck Baldi
>>>>
>>>>
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