Hi Lyle,

 

I always take the old fashioned approach with escalations. That is to use
the escalation to just “touch” the record and then get a filter to pick up
that touch and do the work. This would normally be through a filter guide
unless I only have one action to take. So the steps I go through is as
follows.

 

1.       Create a display only selection field on the form which the
escalation will set if the escalations qualification is met.

2.       Create a filter, that runs at 0, to pick up this field setting and
do the work. If there are several things to do I may use a filter guide.

3.       Add a final action to the filter to do a go to Execution order 1001
to ensure none of the other filters run. This has two benefits. Reduces the
work to be done and ensures no error messages stop the process.

 

This does mean that you must keep filter Execution order 0 for this type of
work only but I haven’t found that to be a problem personally.

 

Brian Bishop

Goldstag Consultants Ltd

tel: +44 (0)7973 746832

 

 <http://www.linkedin.com/in/brianpbishop> Linkedin

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lyle Taylor
Sent: 05 May 2009 02:57
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Filter Phasing and Escalations

 

** 

Let me clarify a bit.  The documentation states that you can add the Run
Process action Application-Release-Pending between each of the actions to
get what I’m looking for and mentions that it can be used in escalations.
However, since it normally runs in phase 3, you have to use the special
filter naming convention to override filter phasing for it to be applied
properly between the push fields actions.  I guess my question boils down to
this: do filter phases apply in escalations, and if they do, can you add `!
to the escalation name to override phasing just like you do with filters?

 

Thanks,

Lyle

 

From: Lyle Taylor 
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 4:05 PM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: Filter Phasing and Escalations

 

Hi All,

 

Can anyone tell me if filter phasing applies to escalations?  I have a
three-step process involving two forms, and I need to guarantee that certain
actions happen in a specific order.  I’m also trying to process records in
batches, so I have an escalation that does something like this:

 

1.       Set the status of all records in Form A to “Process”

2.       Set the field “Process Now” in Form B

3.       Set the status of all records in Form A whose status is still
“Process” to “No Configuration Matched”

 

Basically, Form A contains records to be processed, and new records can be
added to it at any time.  Form B contains configurations that map back to
zero or more records in Form A.

 

At intervals, I set the status of all new records in Form A to Process.
Then I trigger the processing of those records from Form B by setting a
field that triggers the processing workflow.  As part of that, the status of
all records that got processed get set to a status that indicates they have
been processed.  I then want to set the status of any remaining records that
were tagged for processing but that didn’t match any configurations in Form
B to “No Configuration Matched”.

 

So, the question is, how can I guarantee that all records get processed in
action 1 before action 2 gets processed, and that all records affected by
processing related to action 2 (including affected records in Form A) get
processed before action 3 fires?

 

Does that make sense?

 

Thanks,
Lyle



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