How long would RRR|Chive take to move a 700gb db?

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On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Misi Mladoniczky <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Let me know off list, and I will get you the newest RRR|Chive version that
> is much faster in syncing two systems.
>
> I would to it like this:
> 1. Do a new install of the new server 7.1/7.5
> 2. Import your custom groups
> 3. Import your custom forms using def-files
> 4. Analyze your core form customizations (probably some
> permission-settings at least)
> 5. User RRR|DefHideExpandBox to get rid of the expand-box on field 2, 4 and 5
> 6. Use RRR|Chive to SYNC the data from your old production to the new
> production server
> 7. Test and fix
> 8. Do a new RRR|Chive SYNC which will be much faster than the bulk transfer
>
>        Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se
>
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>> Paul,
>> I would recommend a fresh install of everything in the destination.  I
>> recommend this because migration from version/platform will be extremely
>> difficult.  Particularly problematic will be your conversion from
>> non-unicode to unicode....I do not believe this can be done easily...so I
>> would recommend first setting up your 11G DB, then installing Remedy 7.5
>> in
>> their respective environments.  Then doing a selective code migration from
>> existing to new.  Selective in that much has changed between 6.3 and
>> 7.5...I
>> would avoid migrating 'core' forms, instead re-customizing them manually.
>> I
>> recommend 7.5 instead of 7.1 because in less than a years time 7.1 will be
>> R-2, which means it will be reaching it's end of support life, best to
>> migrate to current 'R' and in a years time be slightly behind the curve
>> instead of significantly.  Regarding data, I would suggest you look into
>> 'rrrChive'...a tool produced for free from RRR and has been used by many
>> on
>> the list including myself successfully in the past.  This will allow you
>> to
>> move the data you care about into your newly setup server and forms with
>> relative ease.  Once you have the simple system setup, then install your
>> second remedy server and get server groups configured and functional.
>> Regarding 'hot backup' of your data, I have never personally worked with a
>> hot backup db server and associated app server....the closest I worked on
>> personally was an HP HA cluster with two nodes each capable of running
>> both
>> db and app, but connected to a raid5 san...so if any single piece of
>> hardware were to fail it would switch to the other, or in the case of
>> disk,
>> simply wait for the replacement to be put in.  I have been involved in
>> countless disaster recovery discussions, but none have ever come to
>> fruition
>> for me, so I fear I can't speak authoritatively on that subject.
>>
>>   _____
>>
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>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Blasquez
>> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 6:05 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Major 6.3 Migration Project
>>
>>
>> **
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have been tasked from moving our current production installation to a
>> more
>> robust/modern installation.  Any and all help would be appreciated!
>>
>> Currently:
>>
>> -AR System 6.3 custom server (with modifications to forms User and AR
>> System
>> Email Messages)
>> -Oracle 9iR2 non-unicode
>> -Solaris 9
>> -Application and Database reside on the same machine
>>
>> Goal:
>>
>> -AR System 7.1 or 7.5 (With form modifications intact)
>> -Oracle 11g unicode
>> -Linux Redhat 5
>> -Application and Database on different machines
>> -Disaster Recovery (DR) backup site (Using Oracle log-shipping)
>> -Local High Availibility (HA) backup server (server groups?)
>>
>> I have at my disposal 4 Virtual Machines (VMs) to do development and
>> testing, with an additional 2 VMs and 2 dedicated servers (for the DBs)
>> reserved for the final production installation.  (Please note that there
>> will be Midtier servers involved in all of this, but their deployment is
>> trivial so I'm not including them here.)
>>
>>>From my point of view I see that multiple operations must occur for this
>> migration to be successful (in no particular order):
>>
>> 1) The Oracle 9iR2 DB
>>     -Must be upgraded to 11g
>>     -Must be translated into Unicode
>>     -Must be moved from the Solaris 9 machine to the Linux RH5 machine
>>
>> 2) The current 6.3 installation
>>     -Must be upgraded to 7.1 or 7.5
>>     -Must be configured for server groups
>>     -Must be moved from the Solaris 9 machine to the Linux RH5 machine
>>     -Must begin connecting to the DB remotely instead of locally
>>
>> 3) The finished AR System 7.x installation and Oracle 11g DB
>>     -Must begin log shipping (Data Guard) to the second DB
>>     -Must have a method for failing over to the second site
>>     -Must have a method for local server group failover (load
>> balancer/quick
>> TTL DNS)
>>
>> If you have completed any one of these tasks before, *please* share with
>> me
>> your experience and what you would recommend for my situation!   I would
>> save me hours of researching dead-ends!
>>
>>
>> Finally, I would like input on what would be the correct order to complete
>> all of these tasks, so that the cutover would be as smooth as possible
>> with
>> the least downtime possible.  So far, I have tested the following scenario
>> in Dev/Test:
>>
>> Fresh installation of 7.1/7.5
>>     -DEF import of workflow
>>     -ARX import of data
>>
>> This method seems stable but tedious, as there are many import errors I
>> would need to repair.  This would be the method I would fall back on if
>> there were no more clever/sophisticated way to upgrade.
>>
>>
>> Again, ANY input at all would be GREAT, as of course this project is on a
>> tight timeline.  THANK YOU to anyone who responds!
>>
>> ____________
>> Paul Blasquez
>> Senior Network Engineer/Remedy Developer
>>
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