Nothing changes.  

I changed my PC to 3/15/2010 but my time did not automatically change.  I still 
see 1:00:00 AM as the times for the records that were calculated and 12:00:00 
AM on the records that were manually input on my User Client.

Then I changed my PC to 3/15/2010 and manually changed my time forward an hour 
and I see the same thing.

I'm trying to find a DST White Paper out there to help me understand what is 
supposed to happen.  I see the Tech Bulletins (about New Zealand Time Zones and 
what happens to dates before 2007) but no white paper. 


Lisa

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Grooms, Frederick W
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 12:20 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: DST Issues

Question...  What happens if you set the date on the PC to 3/15/2010?  What 
does the manually entered show?  What does the calculated show?

Fred

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kemes, Lisa
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 9:32 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: DST Issues

Thanks Dave,

I was hoping that the display would be different, but the database date would 
be the same.  But this isn't the case.  When I add a date to the system 
manually 3/15/2010 12:00:00 AM it's posted to my client as the same date and 
time and in the Database as the same Date and Time (but in Epoch of course).  
When I use the DATEADD function to add 63 days to the date 1/11/2010 12:00:00 
AM it posts to the client (and to the database) as 3/15/2010 1:00:00 AM.  

Why the difference then between adding a date/time manually and adding to a 
date using the DATEADD function?  Shouldn't they both show up as 3/15/2010 
1:00:00 AM then?  


Lisa

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Sanders
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 10:20 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: DST Issues

Hi Lisa

This is the Remedy equivalent of relativity theory.  What date/time you see 
depends upon your current date/time as far as DST is concerned.  Let me try to 
explain.

Dates in Remedy are stored as epoch time - the number of seconds since 12AM 
1/1/1970 GMT.  When you set your regional settings, you are identifying an 
offset from GMT that the client uses to display the date/time in your current 
timezone.

When DST kicks in, effectively, your offset from GMT is changed by one hour.
For example, you might now be 7 hours behind GMT instead of 8 hours behind.
All dates are then displayed in the new timezone offset.

When you look at date/times in the future, you are looking at them from your 
current timezone offset, so dates after DST kicks in will appear one hour out.  
Later in the year, these dates will be displayed correctly, but dates from 
before the DST change will be displayed one hour out the other way.

The Remedy client makes no attempt to apply a different timezone offset to past 
or future dates when it displays them - it always uses the current defined 
offset.

So, in other words, I think your date/time calculations are correct, and by the 
time you get to May or August, those times will be displayed correctly.

HTH

David Sanders
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-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of lisakemes
Sent: 07 January 2010 21:55
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: DST Issues

Not sure if this is the same thing (we are NOT dealing with Business Time in 
this scenario), but wanted to see what people were doing in this situation.

I have an On Call System that allows the user to create multiple records if 
they are on call every XX number of days.  So if someone were to type in a 
Start Date of 2/2/2010 12:00:00 AM and an End Date of 2/3/2010 12:00:00 AM and 
add multiple records every 100 days for 3 times, I get:

Start 2/2/2010 12:00:00 AM  End 2/3/2010 12:00:00 AM Start 5/13/2010 1:00:00 AM 
End 5/14/2010 1:00:00 AM Start 8/21/2010 1:00:00 AM End 8/22/2010 1:00:00 AM 
Start 11/29/2010 12:00:00 AM  End 11/30/2010 12:00:00 AM

(I'm adding ((((60 * 60) * 24) * $Day Interval$) * $IntervalCounter$) to the 
Start Date and End Date)

We understand WHY this happens, but wondering what people do about this? 
Once March 14th rolls around, the times in May and August will still be 1:00:00 
AM correct?  (the customer wants 12:00:00 AM)

I checked the database (hoping that in the DB it was correct and the it was 
only displaying in the client differently) but the Database is also showing 
these dates and times.

We are thinking about creating a separate table to clarify DST Dates and Times 
and if a date falls on a certain date and time, subtracting or adding an hour 
to the Start Date or End Date.  UGH!

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