Isn't the format of the licenses different? 6.3 license key is different from 
7.5, and applications do not have keys like they used to with 6.3. I had to 
regenerate these licenses on each of my upgrades in the past and apply them 
manually.

Joe
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:[email protected]]on Behalf Of Grooms, Frederick W
  Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 6:07 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: Server Group Upgrade


  Actually your licenses should import automatically.  7.1 will read the 6.3 
license files and add the data to the new admin forms the 1st time each server 
is started.  You will want to review the license counts in step 11 but you 
should not have to add any manually.

   

  Also I would definitely add in a new step 2:   Back up the Database and file 
system.

   

   

  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Halstead
  Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 4:48 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: Server Group Upgrade

   

  ** @LJ: thanks for that suggestion..I had never thought to just uninstall 
email and approval and then just install them when 7.5 is up and running.  If I 
remember right, the approval server was part of the CMDB application..   
Perhaps there are some uninstallation scripts in the directory?  Just at a 
quick glance there is a ar_apuninstall script in the approval/bin directory..   
I'll have to see if we have any past docs on the approval server or see if I 
could get BMC to provide steps to uninstall it.

  @Joe:  I will review the operation rankings when I get everything upgraded as 
we have those set for our current production environment.  I will also add the 
licenses to the end of the list as well.

  This makes the list:

  1: Stop AR System on our 1st and 2nd application servers.
  2: Run the 7.1 Upgrade against 1st application server and select the UPGRADE 
option.
  3: Run the 7.1 Upgrade against 2nd application server and select the SHARE 
option.
  4: Break the server group by un-checking Server Group on our application 
servers.
  5: Upgrade the approval server on our 1st application server to 7.1.
  6: Upgrade the email engine on our 1nd application server to 7.1.
  7: Upgrade the assignment engine on 1st application server to 7.1.
  8: Upgrade the approval server on our 2nd application server to 7.1.
  9: Upgrade the email engine on our 2nd application server to 7.1.
  10: Upgrade the assignment engine on 2nd application server to 7.1.
  11: Relink the server group between our application servers (sanity check).  
Ensure Remedy is running correctly or can at least start up.
  12: Stop AR System on both servers.
  13: Run the 7.5 Upgrade against our 1st application server and select the 
UPGRADE option.
  14: Run the 7.5 Upgrade against our 2nd application server and select the 
Server Group option.
  15: Break the server group by un-checking Server Group on both application 
servers.
  16: Upgrade the approval server on our 1st application server to 7.5.
  17: Upgrade the email engine on our 1nd application server to 7.5.
  18: Upgrade the assignment engine on 1st application server to 7.5.
  19: Upgrade the approval server on our 2nd application server to 7.5.
  20: Upgrade the email engine on our 2nd application server to 7.5.
  21: Upgrade the assignment engine on 2nd application server to 7.5.
  22: Relink the server group.
  23: Review Server Group Rankings
  24: Add Licenses
  25: Run Smoke tests on workflow, testing, etc...

  This is without the uninstall of the approval server and email engine.



  On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Joe D'Souza <[email protected]> wrote:

  **  

  Bob,

   

  Somewhere in the whole scheme of steps you have missed out on new licenses. 
Licenses for 7.5 versions is different from 6.3. You need to regenerate and 
reapply all applicable licenses to both the servers..

   

  This could be the end step if you are not going to be running ARS 7.1 on a 
production run at all..

   

  The Server Group configurations have ranking operations for most server based 
operations.. The ranks of these operations decide what server will do what.. 
The lower the rank, the higher it is on that operation scheme.. In your case 
you have two servers, you can rank with 1 and 2 for each operation.. While both 
the servers are up, the operations that have rank 1, will activate on the 
configured server. When that server fails, the server with the next rank on 
that server group, will take up that operation.

   

  Joe

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:[email protected]]on Behalf Of Robert Halstead
    Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 4:33 PM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: Server Group Upgrade

    ** All,

    We currently are running AR System 6.3 and are planning on upgrading to 7.5 
next month.  We have been through the upgrade process with BMC on our 
development system, however, our development box doesn't have a server group 
setup.  I've gotten little documentation from BMC regarding upgrading a server 
group environment.

    There's also a caveat, in the upgrade procedure we need to perform an 
upgrade to 7.1 first, then from 7.1 to 7.5 because the 7.5 installer does not 
upgrade our 6.3 system correctly.  We have ran through the upgrade of 6.3 to 
7.5 several times and by stepping the upgrade to 7.1 first, it has been 
successful every time.

    The docs for 7.5 are a little confusing to me when it comes to the server 
group upgrade portion and I have put together some steps that I wonder if the 
List could look at and confirm that they look good.  I've ran the list past 
BMC, however, I'm not confident in their approval because of their lack of 
documentation (just doesn't give me the warm and fuzzy I'm looking for).

    The procedure that I have come up with is as follows:

    1: Stop AR System on our 1st and 2nd application servers.
    2: Run the 7.1 Upgrade against 1st application server and select the 
UPGRADE option.
    3: Run the 7.1 Upgrade against 2nd application server and select the SHARE 
option.
    4: Break the server group by un-checking Server Group on our application 
servers.
    5: Upgrade the approval server on our 1st application server to 7.1.
    6: Upgrade the email engine on our 1nd application server to 7.1.
    7: Upgrade the assignment engine on 1st application server to 7.1.
    8: Upgrade the approval server on our 2nd application server to 7.1.
    9: Upgrade the email engine on our 2nd application server to 7.1.
    10: Upgrade the assignment engine on 2nd application server to 7.1.
    11: Relink the server group between our application servers (sanity check). 
 Ensure Remedy is running correctly or can at least start up.
    12: Stop AR System on both servers.
    13: Run the 7.5 Upgrade against our 1st application server and select the 
UPGRADE option.
    14: Run the 7.5 Upgrade against our 2nd application server and select the 
Server Group option.
    15: Break the server group by un-checking Server Group on both application 
servers.
    16: Upgrade the approval server on our 1st application server to 7.5.
    17: Upgrade the email engine on our 1nd application server to 7.5.
    18: Upgrade the assignment engine on 1st application server to 7.5.
    19: Upgrade the approval server on our 2nd application server to 7.5.
    20: Upgrade the email engine on our 2nd application server to 7.5.
    21: Upgrade the assignment engine on 2nd application server to 7.5.
    22: Relink the server group.
    23: Run Smoke tests on workflow, testing, etc...

    I'm a little confused when it comes to the supporting applications such as 
the email engine and approval server as the docs are a little confusing on when 
to upgrade them.  If anyone could provide some input on this process it will be 
a great help to my coworkers and I.

    Thanks for your time,

    -- 
    "A fool acts, regardless; knowing well that he is wrong. The ignoramus acts 
on only what he knows, but all that he knows.
    The ignoramus may be saved, but the fool knows that he is doomed."

    Bob Halstead

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