I think there are 2 challenges I can see making CI Name Unique,

1. CI Name belongs to BMC Base Element Class and there are possibilities
that you may have same CI Name under different classes.

2. It would make Reconciliation job difficult to set precedence between data
sets.



Thanks,

Wirasat


On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Charles Baldi <cba...@ieee.org> wrote:

> Oh, I agree that it is a pain and we try to discourage making the CI
> name unique if we can.
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Ramey, Anne <anne.ra...@nc.gov> wrote:
> > We actually did this, put in the filters to require a unique CI Name per
> Data Set.  It worked, but we ended up taking it out.  It just ended up being
> troublesome.  There are other unique identifiers of the CI and trying to
> force a unique CI name caused undo hardship--particularly with discovery
> integrations.  They match things based on CI Name and/or expect/place
> particular things in the CI Name and it couldn't use the values we had
> decided to use in that field.
> >
> > Hope that made sense,
> > Anne
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Charles Baldi
> > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 10:50 AM
> > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> > Subject: Re: CI Name* should Unique in Asset Manag
> >
> > The CMDB doesn't use NAME as a unique index because you can have
> > multiple records for the same CI (with the same name) in different
> > Data Sets.  If you want to prevent a user from entering a duplicate
> > name then you have to do it in workflow.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Chuck Baldi
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Lammey, Peter A.
> > <peter.a.lam...@espn.com> wrote:
> >> **
> >>
> >> I agree.  The Atrium CMDB application should have made the ID field
> unique.
> >> It wouldn't be a true ID of an asset if it was not unique and because
> this
> >> was not enforced in the system, we have had a rash of a number of assets
> >> that were duplicated in the system.
> >>
> >> I don't think Name can be unique.  Many times you may just want to
> >> generically give a name to an Asset CI and I should note that this would
> be
> >> a problem with the Purchase Module workflow since I believe it will
> stage
> >> the initial CI Names for received assets with the Purchase Line Item
> >> description.
> >>
> >> If you setup filters to produce errors when CI Name is already used the
> >> Receiving workflow from Purchasing would cease to work properly.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Peter Lammey
> >> ESPN IT Packaging and Automation
> >> 860-766-4761
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> >> [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn
> >> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 9:58 AM
> >> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> >> Subject: Re: CI Name* should Unique in Asset Manag
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> **
> >>
> >> I could come up with some quick reasons why it's a bad idea.  The most
> basic
> >> one is that while unique CI Names would be good from the perspective of
> >> managing physical assets, it gets tricky when you talk about things like
> >> software, databases, etc.  You could make up a naming convention to
> populate
> >> it with, such as Visio 2...@pc123456 to indicate that it's a copy of
> Visio
> >> 2007 on PC123456, but why force yourself to do that?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The Token ID field is good for a unique ID if you need one you can set,
> >> otherwise there is always the Instance ID if you just need it within
> Asset
> >> Management / CMDB.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Shawn Pierson
> >>
> >> Remedy Developer | Southern Union
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> >> [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
> >> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 6:57 AM
> >> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> >> Subject: Re: CI Name* should Unique in Asset Manag
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> **
> >>
> >> Try looking in the AR System Configuration manual. But if you don't know
> how
> >> to do this basic thing, my guess is that you don't understand WHY you
> should
> >> or should not do so. Someone with that level of knowledge is likely to
> do
> >> unintended harm by messing with the CMDB.
> >>
> >> Rick
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >>
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> >>
> >> Sender: "Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)"
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> >>
> >> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:00:14 +0400
> >>
> >> To: <arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>
> >>
> >> ReplyTo: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> >>
> >> Subject: CI Name* should Unique in Asset Manag
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi there,
> >>
> >> Version 7.1
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> In Asset Management CI Name* would be unique, how is it possible?
> >>
> >> I want to make CI Name* Unique in Asset Management. Is there any
> >> possibility?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks & Regards
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Amanullah
> >>
> >>
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