Jason, Whenever features are added, there are often name/wording changes that occur during the process.
Examples include overly technical descriptions changed to something more user friendly as in this case to avoid confusion and complexity. So, you will see that the option is Table Refresh in the Dev Studio environment. Table Refresh was complained about (and so "table content change" used for a while) because it happens when the table is initially loaded too and there was concern about the word Refresh being confusing to people because initial load is different than a refresh... (remember, you are talking about engineers and they try and parse the word "a" into 10 different meanings and clarifications!) Well, sanity prevailed and the term Table Refresh was selected as not really confusing anyone except the internal engineers.... But, the words are being used and documentation is being built in parallel and some things are finished early in cycles and things change later and the dog ate my homework and ..... Sometimes stuff just doesn't get cleaned up completely. This is what happened in this case and led to the confusion you experienced (see, now the engineers are going to tell me that they told me there was going to be confusion about Table Refresh!). Doug Mueller ________________________________ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason Miller Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 2:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: "Table field content change" Execution Option ** Just for giggles I opened the 7.6.03 Workflow Objects Guide and there is no reference to "Table field content change" like there is in the 7.5 guide (I find it 3 times, once in the "Active links: Execution options for request and window actions" table and twice in the Index). Jason On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Jason Miller <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Thanks as always Doug. I have a few questions. What conditions need to be met for this option to appear in Dev Studio? I have the table field selected as the "Field" in the AL and I have tried using the column as well. The documentation appear to contradict your statement "When the table contents change not when a column content of an editable column changes with this statement "When the user changes the value of an editable column in the table field". Maybe it is poorly worded or a documentation bug but to me they appear to be opposite statements. Am I still completely misunderstanding what the documentation is saying? Thanks, Jason On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Mueller, Doug <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: ** I think the issue here is a misreading/misunderstanding of the feature. This feature -- as confirmed by another posting -- does work in the 7.5 and later (I think it was added in 7.5) releases. It is when the TABLE FIELD content changes. Not when an editable cell in an editable column in a table field changes. It is when the TABLE FIELD content changes. As the doc notes: When the table is initially loaded When the table is refreshed When the table goes to the next/previous chunk When the table contents change not when a column content of an editable column changes. You should find this feature working correctly as documented once remembering that the TABLE FIELD is the entire field the table is in not a column or an editable cell within a column. You can do table walks and there are keywords that will tell you if the content of the columns in the table row have changed (not which one if there are several editable columns, but just that something has changed in some editable column). There is no condition at this time that fires at the point of change of the value. (Although, if you use advanced tables and have things laid out and columns are shown as fields you may be able to put things like gain and loss of focus on those fields and things may work.... but I am not sure. If not, it would be an interesting enhancement request if I do say so myself....) Anyway, this is another topic than the one of this note. I hope this helps clarify things. Doug Mueller ________________________________ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Jason Miller Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 12:47 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: "Table field content change" Execution Option ** Interesting... So you see the option? Is it right there in the Execution Options section? Here is a screen prints of the form (it has two editable columns which posed some challenges) and the AL in DS. (apologies to those that cannot get to Picasa) http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/sredir?uname=103809916737874607970&target=ALBUM&id=5523157893439853409&authkey=Gv1sRgCI-3itaspOORvwE&invite=CJ6dltEM&feat=email Jason On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Jarl Grøneng <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi, Using this: - Refreshing the table, for example, when the user selects Refresh or Refresh All from the pop-up menu On a 7.5p4 serve, and it works as documented. (dev studio 7.5p3) -- J 2010/9/30 Jason Miller <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>: > ** Has anybody seen the "Table field content change" as an Active Link > Execution Option in Dev Studio? We have an editable check box in a table > field where I want to update the source data record as soon as the check box > is checked/unchecked. This sounds like it is exactly what I need but I > don't see it as an option in Dev Studio. > > I have tried setting both the table field and the column as the "Field:". > Used both ARS 7.5 p1 and p5 with DS 7.5 p5 and 7.6.03. I even tried the > Admin tool for kicks. > > 7.5 Workflow Objects Guide, Pg 28 > Executes when the contents of a table are refreshed in any of the following > ways: > - Loading the field. In the web client, this occurs when the form data > is refreshed at predefined intervals > - Refreshing the table, for example, when the user selects Refresh or > Refresh All from the pop-up menu > - Choosing to view the next or previous chunk, for example, when the > user selects Next chunk or Previous chunk from the pop-up menu > - Clearing the table, for example, when the user selects Clear Table > from the pop-up menu > - When the user changes the value of an editable column in the table > field. > > This sounds like a wonderful newer feature (I didn't see it in the 7.5 > release notes, when was it added?). I have run into similar situations in > the past where I needed to update the data instantly when a value in an > editable column changes. 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