Authentication information is included in each packet to the arserver, so it
can run without session persistence.  However, there are trade-offs.  For
example, if users have a floating license, they can potentially allocated a
floating license on each server that their request is sent to.  This
statement does not apply to the mid-tier layer though.  The J2EE container
in use has session information stored that is required to handle requests
from a user.  If the user is re-directed to a mid-tier server where this
session information is not available, the user will fail authentication and
will be redirected to the login interface.

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Inc.

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 10:09 AM, LJ LongWing <[email protected]> wrote:

> **
>
> Danny,
>
> According to the documentation, you MUST have session affinity turned
> on….so it only benefits you to have a server group if you have more than one
> mid tier node….only benefits the user traffic through that mid tier node at
> least, the other node can still perform admin operations and such…in
> addition to being available to other clients.
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Danny Kellett
> *Sent:* Friday, January 14, 2011 8:32 AM
>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Server Group node
>
>
>
> **
>
> I actually think its worth having some very small text on the home page
> that tells the user which node they are on.
>
>
>
> I guess the only thing to remember is that if you don’t have the sticky bit
> set (Session infinity as its sometimes known) then you could get directed to
> others depending on the LB config.
>
>
>
> Actually thinking about this, I guess you can not have the sticky bit on
> the LB in front of the AR Servers as this would mean that all your midtier
> traffic would only go through one server....
>
>
>
> Food for thought anyway....
>
> Regards
>
> Danny
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *LJ LongWing
> *Sent:* 14 January 2011 15:28
>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Server Group node
>
>
>
> **
>
> J
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Danny Kellett
> *Sent:* Friday, January 14, 2011 8:01 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Server Group node
>
>
>
> **
>
> You can do a set fields from “Configuration ARDBC” and the query is
> something like ‘Name’ = “Server-Connect-Name”
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
> Danny
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *LJ LongWing
> *Sent:* 14 January 2011 14:56
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Server Group node
>
>
>
> **
>
> J….I figured yesterday that I would use a perl script to pull the
> ‘Server-Connection-Name’ out of the ar.cfg file….what I was hoping for
> honestly was a keyword like $SERVER-NODE$ or something ‘stupid easy’ like
> that…J
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Axton
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 13, 2011 5:27 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Server Group node
>
>
>
> ** Logs, tcpdump, netstat, and many more utilities can be used to
> determine this.  It's a PITA at times, but doable.  Beyond that you can test
> the nodes individually by connecting to them individually to
> troubleshoot/diagnose problems.
>
> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 4:09 PM, LJ LongWing <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> **
>
> Well, as we are setting up and configuring the nodes, there is always the
> possibility that a user may be having trouble, trouble that’s specific to a
> certain node of the group (environment related)…and without the ability for
> us to know what app node a user is on, it makes it difficult to know which
> of the app nodes is causing the problem.  In production we have the
> following architecture
>
>
>
> Load Balancer
>
> 4 Mid-Tier
>
> Load Balancer
>
> 2 App
>
>
>
> So, any one of the 4 web nodes could be pointing to any one of the app
> nodes….so it would be nice to be able to pinpoint which node, both web and
> app a user is using. J
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Axton
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 13, 2011 2:15 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Server Group node
>
>
>
> ** Want to share more around what you are trying to accomplish?  Why do you
> need to know the name?
>
> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 2:32 PM, LJ LongWing <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> **
>
> I’m setting up server groups.  I have the need to know which node I’m
> currently on when connected through the load balanced name.  According to
> the 7.5 docs…all nodes should have the same ‘Server-Name’, but each node
> registers with the group with the ‘Server-Connect-Name’.  it is the connect
> name I want to be able to access through workflow.  Any/all suggestions are
> appreciated.
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