Also with regards to maintainability, if you are migrating code through
various environments to get to production, the T# for that form isn't
guaranteed to be the same.  It most likely is, but it depends on how
tortured your migration process is (or was, before you started working
somewhere *sigh*).  The schema id doesn't come along in a *.def file.

Have you considered keeping it all in Remedy, and just creating a self-join
form with only those three fields showing?  You'll end up with an Oracle
view anyway if you need it for outside integrations or whatever, and you
don't have to worry about maintaining stuff at the DB level.

Thad

On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Axton <[email protected]> wrote:

> ** It's measurably more maintainable to create the view against the table.
>  Any time you modify a form, the views that ARS creates on top of the tables
> is dropped and recreated.  This is because there is no way in the db to
> alter the view.  When the view is dropped and recreated it may invalidate
> the view you have that is built on top of that view, esp if the owner of the
> view is not the ars db account.
>
> I've found that it's best not to create or alter objects in the ars schema.
>  They tend to turn into something that resembles space debris after a while.
>
> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Roberts, Chas <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Sort of depends if you want to wait for the view to be processed before
>> the view of the view.
>>
>> It's probably measurably more efficient to create the view(let) from the
>> original table.
>>
>> Chas
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Kemes, Lisa
>> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 2:07 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: View of a View?
>>
>> So is it recommended?
>>
>> Lisa
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Grooms, Frederick W
>> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 5:05 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: View of a View?
>>
>> On Oracle, the optimizer will convert the view (through the other view)
>> down to the actual table when it executes the query.
>>
>> Fred
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Kemes, Lisa
>> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 3:50 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: View of a View?
>>
>> **
>> I have a table T204 and the AR SYSTEM automatically creates a view on top
>> of it called "TEIS_SURVEY_TEXT"
>>
>> I need to create a view and need to know the ramifications of creating a
>> view of a view.
>>
>> I could create my view like this:
>>
>> CREATE OR REPLACE VIEW "ARADMIN"."TYCO_ADR_SURVEY_TYPE_V" ("REQUEST_ID",
>> "STATUS", "LANGUAGE") AS
>>  SELECT REQUEST_ID , STATUS, LANGUAGE FROM TEIS_SURVEY_TEXT;
>>
>> Which would be a view of a view.
>>
>> Or should I create it like this:
>>
>> CREATE OR REPLACE VIEW "ARADMIN"."TYCO_ADR_TEIS_TYPE_V" ("REQUEST_ID",
>> "STATUS", "LANGUAGE") AS
>>  SELECT T204.C1,C8,C536870918
>> FROM T204;
>>
>> What are everyone's thoughts?
>>
>> Lisa Kemes
>> AR System Developer
>> Tyco Electronics
>> 717-810-2408 <tel:+17178102408> tel
>> 717-602-9460 <tel:+17176029460> cell
>> [email protected]
>>
>>
>>
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