I have had the same experience - if you turn it on after the fact (after 
installing the apps) the server becomes irrevocably hung.  I have made a point 
of turning it on during installs and upgrades ( Set Object Modification Log ON) 
but have yet to see any positive result from doing so, possibly because other 
installers turn it back off again and leave it off (SLM?).  Then when you try 
to actually SEE relationships, it is not turned on, and turning it on hangs 
your server delays startup by , and so on...  It's like the BPCU - it is 
supposed to work, but it doesn't, really.

I had it turned on everywhere I could while installing my clean 7.6.04 suite 
pre-production server - I had to keep turning it back on, and it is still 
turned on there in Server Information, and if I open the HPD:Help Desk form and 
select a field and right-click - Show Relationships it DOES display 
relationships - usually an obscene number of them (60 for Priority*, 86 for 
Service*+), so it can actually work.

It keeps getting turned back off on my staging server, but I think it is 
_supposed_ to be safe to turn it back on because it was on during the 
installs/upgrades so the relationship information must have already been 
generated and stored somewhere.  Unfortunately, turning it on results in the 
server startup being delayed for longer than I can tolerate - I get tired of 
seeing more "Wait for server timed out" entries in the armonitor.log, so I 
usually have to go back into the ar.cfg and change Record-Object-Relationships: 
from T to F and try again.  I just tried that, and after twenty+ minutes of 
seeing it hung I rebooted the server.  So no, I can't say that it actually 
works, in the real world.

Not having a fun day with BPCU 7.6.04.01000, so I am skeptical about the 
chances of ANY BMC product released since 2008 working properly.

Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
Call Tracking Administration Manager
University of North Texas Computing & IT Center
http://itsm.unt.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sanford, Claire
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 10:19 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: ITSM - 7.6.4 Relating Objects

I have checked the BMC KB and found no answer.   

I went into Remedy to have it "relate the objects" the way the documentation 
said to do it and now the DB is running wild.  I can't even log into Remedy to 
make it stop. A

It appears to have stopped and started over.  

I tried to start the service manually using "arserver.exe -m"

This is what is creating the huge logs. I have 2gb log files that have no 
errors in them, but the application isn't letting me in. 

I rebooted the server and when it comes back up, I still get the ARERR90 and 
can't connect.

This is my "sandbox" server and we are not even in Test yet, so I am not 
totally freaked out... Just minorly  ;)


Remedy ITSM 7.6.4
Oracle DB


Claire Sanford 
Information Systems Division 
Memorial Hermann Healthcare System
System Services Tower North - 2:105 
920 Frostwood, Houston, TX 77024 
Phone: 713 338 6035 
[email protected] 

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