Thanks Mike & Susan, So it sounds like the 536xxxxxx-599xxxxxx range is not reserved for any special use. Rather, it's just that 600xxxxxx-999999999 is a convenient range to maintain custom IDs in that is unlikely to be auto-assigned by the system (unless someone actually added enough IDs to reach 600000000).
This is a one-developer custom setup, and I am trying to weigh the advantage of me manually assigning IDs over the convenience of letting ARS do it. I have run into the situation where trying to map a push fields or something was tedious because I had not kept consistent use of field ids (so I couldn't just match based on ID), so I do see that advantage. David David Durling University of Georgia From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of White, Michael W (Mike) Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 10:07 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: "Outside of Reserved Range" warning? ** I agree - we don't have 399,999,999 fields (closer to 22K). No problem with the number of possible Field IDs. Not even close. Mike White EMail michael.wh...@verizon.com<mailto:michael.wh...@verizon.com> Office 813.978.2192 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]<mailto:[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]> On Behalf Of Susan Palmer Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 9:53 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> Subject: Re: "Outside of Reserved Range" warning? ** I want to know who is going to use more fields than range 600000000 through 999999999 can provide! Even for BMC that might be a challenge. Since we're a custom shop I always make sure the field ID for fields used on multiple forms are the same. ARUtilities helps me easily see what field ID is available across several forms. Susan On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 7:57 AM, White, Michael W (Mike) <michael.wh...@verizon.com<mailto:michael.wh...@verizon.com>> wrote: We reserve ranges of field IDs (> 600M) by application to avoid conflict and preserve ability to share workflow later. 536M range (system-generated) is risky in this regard. Two different kinds of fields on two different forms could be assigned the same id. Later copying/pasting a field onto a new form, such as to add functionality to the new form, could conflict if the id is already in-use. Record ID is always Field ID 1. Similarly, where we have to keep instances of a kind of field (Nodename, Site-ID, and many others in our case), we use the same Field ID. We use a cross-reference product to plan for changes, which reserved Field IDs helps with (as do field naming conventions). We can easily find like fields by their ID or name. Mike White EMail michael.wh...@verizon.com<mailto:michael.wh...@verizon.com> Office 813.978.2192<tel:813.978.2192> -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>] On Behalf Of David Durling Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 8:43 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> Subject: Re: "Outside of Reserved Range" warning? Is starting at 600,000,000 just a convention people in the ARS community have chosen, or is there a real risk of running into a problem by starting at the 536,xxx,xxx range the system will use by default if you're creating a new form? According to KA315200, a field range of 536870913 to 2147483647<tel:2147483647> can be used for ARS 7.1 and 7.5. David Durling University of Georgia > -----Original Message----- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>] On Behalf Of White, > Michael W (Mike) > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 4:20 PM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> > Subject: Re: "Outside of Reserved Range" warning? > > "I seem to recall that 600,000,000 to 999,999,999 is reserved for custom > development.". > > We roll our own and use that range. > > Mike White > EMail michael.wh...@verizon.com<mailto:michael.wh...@verizon.com> > Office 813.978.2192<tel:813.978.2192> > > -----Original Message----- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>] On Behalf Of Logan, > Kelly > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 4:14 PM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> > Subject: Re: "Outside of Reserved Range" warning? > > "One. . .Two. . .I think you're right. . ." > > -----Original Message----- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>] On Behalf Of Tommy > Morris > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 12:20 PM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> > Subject: Re: "Outside of Reserved Range" warning? > > Yeah, I meant 600 million. I still have trouble counting to 5 so numbers > larger > than that stump me. :) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>] On Behalf Of Meyer, > Jennifer L > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 11:19 AM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> > Subject: Re: "Outside of Reserved Range" warning? > > Huh. I suspect it's the number of digits in your ID that's causing the > issue. I > seem to recall that 600,000,000 to 999,999,999 is reserved for custom > development. Field IDs 599,999,999 and below are for BMC's use, but I don't > recall anything about using IDs above 1,000,000,000. > > Jennifer Meyer > Remedy Technical Support Specialist > State of North Carolina > Office of Information Technology Services Service Delivery Division ITSM & > ITAM Services > Office: 919-754-6543<tel:919-754-6543> > ITS Service Desk: 919-754-6000<tel:919-754-6000> > jennifer.me...@nc.gov<mailto:jennifer.me...@nc.gov> > http://its.state.nc.us<http://its.state.nc.us/> > > E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North > Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties only by an > authorized State Official. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>] On Behalf Of Reiser, > John J > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 12:03 PM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> > Subject: "Outside of Reserved Range" warning? > > Hello Listers, > ARS 7.6.03 > MS SQL Server 2005 > VMWare Windows 2003 Enterprise > I've been working in the Dev Studio for a while and I keep getting the > following response when I create fields. > "You have specified an id for the following fields which is outside the BMC > reserved range. Do you want to continue?" > I could see a warning for creating a field inside the range of reserved field > ids > but outside? > Is there a config setting in Dev Studio to stop this message? > The field ids that I use are all between 1,587,700,000 and 1,587,711,199 > > Thanks, > --- > John J. Reiser > Remedy Developer/Administrator > Senior Software Development Analyst > Lockheed Martin - MS2 > The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long. > Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased by me _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug11 www.wwrug.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
