Yes I was interested in the character count as if I encrypted the input, I’d 
need to consider enough room for storage. I was tempted to build a 254 
character field to store it, but then curiosity got the better of me and I 
wanted to know if there was an algorithm to calculate the expected length of 
the encrypted text..

Yes I do remember you from Nomura. How have you been. 

Thank you for the info.. something that I can digest over the weekend..

Joe

From: Michael Latham 
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 5:47 PM
Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: Working with ENCRYPT() function...

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Hey Joe -

How have things been since Nomura - if you remember me from that project and 
you are in fact the same Joe De'Souza.  

To move along, encryption algorithms vary.  If I am not mistaken Remedy ARS 
uses DES block-cipher encryption in the ENCRYPT function.    DES in and of 
itself is symmetric from an algorithm standpoint. It uses one 64-bit key to 
encrypt a block of plaintext that is 64-bits into ciphered text.  It has one 
parity bit for each byte of the provided key which generates a key strength 
which is only 56-bits.



  Per BMC Documentation:

"The output is limited to the size of the field used for output, including the 
base-64 encoding.
Therefore, you are limited to encrypting a string that is 3/4 the size of the 
output field."

Using the passphrase method as a way to generate the encrypted text is achieved 
using, most probably, a key derivation and salt combination.

In order to decrypt ciphered text you would need to "code" an external DES 
ciphering utility in your language of choice that would encrypt the plain text 
based on the key provided or decrypt the ciphered text using the key provided.  
As long as you have the key you can go back and forth with the 
encryption/decryption.


By the way, why do you need to know the length of the output string?  I am 
assuming when you say length you mean character count or something similar.


Mike








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Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:48:37 -0400
From: [email protected]
Subject: Working with ENCRYPT() function...
To: [email protected]

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Is there a known algorithm to calculate the length of the output results of 
ENCRYPT based on the length of the input string and the encryption key 
parameters?

I vaguely remember that the length is 120. Or is that only the length of the 
encrypted value in Field 123?

Also how would one decrypt the contents of Field 123 if that is used for 
storing a password that is used for authenticating into an external app or wsdl?

Joe
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