Mike,

I am sorry, I meant that the AR server should be able to handle it.  I
would go with the 150 limit per mid tier.  I haven't tested it to see
how many it can actually run, but it can be pretty frustrating if you
don't have enough of them to handle the load.  I believe that you only
need one AR server based on concurrent users SOLELY.

Fail-over and disaster recovery is a different ball of wax.  Server
groups are a great way to protect yourself.

Based on what you are saying I would say a minimal setup would be 2
good webservers to handle the mid tier, one app server and one db
server.  But keep in mind that is minimal.  Depending on how much
money you have to spend I would double everything to start.

Patrick has a pretty good recommendation.


Brian Goralczyk
Phone 574-643-1144
Email [email protected]


On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Hocks, Mike (DOT)
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Brian, thanks a lot for the info...so it sounds like the rule of estimating 
> 150 concurrent connections per mid-tier is way off base...we are running a 
> quad core xeon proc with 24GB of RAM w/ Windows 2008 64BIT ... sounds like we 
> are in good shape our environment?  We do have Mid-Tier and the AR System all 
> on the same box (pre-config stack install)
>
> Thanks again,
> -Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Goralczyk
> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 2:51 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Load Balancer & Mid Tiers
>
> I would say that 500 concurrent users isn't to much for some servers to 
> handle.  It all depends on your hardware and your code.  If you are using out 
> of the box, what are those 500 users going to be doing?  If it is custom 
> code, how cleanly is it written.  Performance testing and improvement is a 
> job all on it's own.  But I have had systems that have dealt with that level 
> of load without a problem.  The biggest issue is the single point of failure 
> mentioned.
>
>
> Brian Goralczyk
> Phone 574-643-1144
> Email [email protected]
>
>
> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Hocks, Mike (DOT) <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> Interesting, we need to build out our environment for 500 concurrent 
>> connections, do you think we should plan for more AR Servers to accommodate 
>> 500 concurrent connection?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of pritch
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 2:22 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Load Balancer & Mid Tiers
>>
>> You can, but then you still have a potential single point of failure (or 
>> bottleneck).
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Andrew C Goodall" <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 3:11:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: Load Balancer & Mid Tiers
>>
>> You can have multiple point to one.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Andrew C. Goodall
>> Software Engineer
>> Development Services
>> [email protected]
>> jcpenney
>> 6501 Legacy Drive
>> Plano, TX 75024
>> jcp.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Hocks
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 2:06 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Load Balancer & Mid Tiers
>>
>> A question regarding a Load balancer and multiple Mid Tiers .... Can I have 
>> multiple mid tiers point to 1 AR Server or do I need to have an AR Server 
>> for each Mid Tier?
>>
>> We are running the 7.6.04 from the Pre Config Stack Installer  on a
>> Windows 2008 Server with a SQL backend
>>
>> Thank you!
>> -Mike
>>
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