To answer your this specific question:

So if the new employee Judy Jones logs on as "jjones", does she suddenly 
inherit all the records previously owned/last updated by "jjones" as the 
original user of this id? Would she possibly see his Incidents/CI's, etc?

Yes,  Judy Jones (new user) will inherit all the records previously owned/last 
updated by Joe Jones , she would see all records and ownership of those records 
which were worked by Joe Jones.
Reason: remedy application does not recognize whether user is new or old, as 
soon as it finds valid record in User form it does get authenticated and as 
soon as it finds valid record in CTM: People form it gives all permissions and 
licenses accordingly.


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Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 4:49 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re-use Login ID in Remedy

** I said the same thing guys. Let me elaborate a tad. They use a unique id for 
their company (custom attribute on the People form) that allows internal 
identification based on their unique identifier attribute, so they clam this 
will be acceptable when it comes to audits, I also brought up the SarBox issues.
What concerns me is that Incidents/Changes/CI's, etc will have last modified by 
"old guy" instead of "new guy". And... I haven't tried it yet, but I suspect 
the Data tool isn't going to do the trick as it relates to CI's.

By "reuse login Id' I was referring to: Ex. Joe Jones leaves the company and 
has a Remedy login ID of "jjones". A new employee is hired, Judy Jones, and she 
is issued the old login id used for Joe Jones of "jjones".
So if the new employee Judy Jones logs on as "jjones", does she suddenly 
inherit all the records previously owned/last updated by "jjones" as the 
original user of this id? Would she possibly see his Incidents/CI's, etc?
I'm still trying to wrap my head around all this so pardon my rambling. :-)

I've never had to deal with this issue in the past and wondered how the 
community handled this request or if anyone had ever had to deal with this 
issue before.

7.6.04 SP2
Windows

Thanks,

Jase
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Tauf Chowdhury 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
**
To echo Chris, I hope you don't work for a public company because that has to 
be against some sort of Sarbanes-Oxley regulation.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 8, 2012, at 4:11 PM, strauss <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
wrote:
**
It is an incredibly bad security practice because it destroys any 
accountability for identity management.  It is akin to reusing the social 
security numbers of deceased persons for newborns (try that analogy on them).  
We do battle with our PeopleSoft drones over this regularly, but it's really a 
problem with them not having a unique index on the table for workforce ids; the 
LDAP login names almost never get duplicated, and our AD syncs to LDAP for that 
data.

If you ever get a security audit, and they are reusing login ids in AD as a 
standard practice, your organization will fail the audit (unless the audit is 
by Arthur Andersen LLP).

Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
Call Tracking Administration Manager
University of North Texas Computing & IT Center
http://itsm.unt.edu/
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jase Brandon
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 2:26 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re-use Login ID in Remedy

** Hello All,
I have been approached and asked about how we can re-use Login Id' and I've 
never been asked to do this anywhere else. Of course my initial reply was "We 
shouldn't Do That", but I need more of a justification as the company reuses 
login ids via AD as a standard.

Ive told them Login Id is associated with all things ITSM/CI's. I see this 
being a recipe for disaster. Can anyone help me out with your thoughts on this 
one please? Has anyone else done anything like this before?

Thanks in Advance,

Jase Brandon
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