I've seen bad things happen with FTS when the server stays up so if your
arserver process hung up and restarted, that could def be a problem. In
order to start the indexing fresh again, you would need to stop AR, delete
the contents of the collection directory and delete  the data from
FT_Pending. Then start.

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On May 28, 2013, at 2:19 PM, Andrew Hicox <[email protected]> wrote:

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aah yes, FT_PENDING ...

I had perhaps falsely presumed this was a cache mechanism to queue fields
for the indexer while the indexer was busy doing things (for instance
re-indexing, as it is now, or for instance to queue records if the indexer
is still working on the last run at the next scan interval).

I see a relatively small number of records in FT_PENDING (around 9k).
However, I don't think the indexer is stuck. It is consistently writing to
the collection directory (albeit excruciatingly slowly), and also it's
logging like mad. It should have several million records to scan ... each
with multiple indexed fields, so I *would* expect this to run for a while,
but at the same time ... at this point, I need to get an idea of what it's
doing ... how much longer it has to go. People have questions, and I don't
have answers :-/

I should mention that we've taken the obvious steps of allocating more
threads to the FTS RPC queue and also in the FTS plugin config.

I should also mention that for a period of about a week and a half, we had
some external issues which were causing the arserverd process to hang, die
and restart at least twice daily ... does anyone know if arsystem restart
 causes an in-progress FTS re-index to dump it's work and begin again? I
wonder if this could be part of our problem? By that same token I can't
seem to find any obvious way to force FTS to abort a re-index procedure and
begin again (presuming that's not what happens by default when you restart
arsystem).

thanks for the pointers to the docs and the kb guys ... I'll have another
search through those.

-Andy


On May 28, 2013, at 12:53 PM, Tauf Chowdhury wrote:

I may be fuzzy on this but there is a table called FT_Pending that
holds some data on what is being indexed and then dropped once it is
in the collection directory. If your indexing is running for more than
a month though, I'm pretty sure it's hung and not doing anything. The
size of FT_Pending should always be small if the indexing is in
progress.

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On May 28, 2013, at 1:47 PM, Andrew Hicox <[email protected]> wrote:

Hello everyone,


I currently find myself in the third circle of ARS hell ... debugging FTS
on ARS 7.6.03 (it's a long story on why we're not on 7.6.04 yet, but
suffice it to say, I have no immediate control of that situation).


We have had an FTS re-index procedure running for more than a month now. I
need to get an idea on where it is, and how much longer it needs to finish.
I can trace some of this through the arftsindex.log(s). It seems to iterate
per-form, per-indexed field. So ... form A, indexed field 1 ... then
indexed field 2, etc, etc cycling through every record in the form N times
where N is the number of indexed columns in the form.


So ... part of this is that I need to be able to know exactly how many such
fields and forms I'm looking at.

I need a better way of doing this than to open each form on the server, and
pick through the field properties on every form.


I've tried running the sql log on server startup to try and capture
whatever it is the ft dispatcher executes in the DB to find the indexed
fields, but if it's there I sure as heck can't find it. There do not appear
to be any obvious columns on the 'FIELD' table that would indicate FTS
indexing mode, nor do there appear to be any adjunct tables (like the
various FIELD_* tables) that would contain this data.


I'd like very much to be able to execute a query on the DB that would
return schemaid and fieldid of all the fields that the FTS indexer is going
to try and run through.


Does anyone know of a way to do this?


-Andy

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