Hi Ken,

For my last client (eBay), I orchestrated an upgrade from 7.1 to 8.1 (data
only, not UI) of a purely custom application (no ITSM).  The upgrade was
complicated by the fact that we decided to move from Oracle back-end to SQL
Server, which of course made doing either a direct in-place upgrade, or
using a db copy, impossible.

So, I designed and wrote a custom API program that analyzed the forms
containing data to be transferred, then dynamically constructed SQL that it
then ran on the target DB which pulled the bulk of the data directly from
DB to DB through a database link (all non-LOB data - the LOB data had to be
handled a bit differently).  We then just exported/imported the form &
workflow definitions to the new server, then ran this program to handle the
data.

This solution did not perform any data transformations between the systems
and in fact was designed assumed none were needed.  I don't know what kind
of data transformations need to take place during the upgrade path from 7.6
to 8.1. of ITSM, but if they're significant, this type of solution may not
work for you.

But if not, and if you need a solution like this and have the resources to
implemented it, I'd be happy to share more details about the strategy.  Let
me know.

Thanks,
Charlie


On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 7:09 AM, Cecil, Ken <[email protected]> wrote:

> Misi,
>
> Will RRR|Chive work when moving from ITSM 7.6 to 8.1?  Do I have to define
> mapping to get from one version of the forms to the new version? Define
> mappings for all of the ITSM forms? How do I determine which forms?
>
>
> Ken.
>
>
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> Subject: Re: Delta Data Migration for initial data migration.
>
> Hi,
>
> While not solving the problem LJ is talking about, DDM is not really
> designed for such big data transfers. Try RRR|Chive instead.
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> > Ken,
> > Doing so will wipe out some critical information on your destination
> > environment like shr properties records, cmdb class information, etc,
> > I don't recommend running it in that situation.
> > On Jan 12, 2014 10:20 PM, "Cecil, Ken" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> **
> >>
> >> Anybody tried using the Delta Data Migration utility for doing an
> >> initial data migration from one system to a new build that is not a
> >> db copy nor an upgraded system?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Example,  Production 7.6 system to 8.1 system (clean db)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> It would seems like it should be possible in theory if you specify
> >> something early like (1/1/1970 as the start date).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Ken.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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