This should be old news.   The bad one was pulled and the new one is coming our 
today I think.    

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> On Feb 14, 2014, at 5:21 PM, "Grooms, Frederick W" 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Are you talking about the ITSM application 8.1.01 or the base ARS  8.1.01 
> corrupting overlays?
> 
> Fred
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ortega, Jesus A
> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 4:11 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: 8.1 upgrade
> 
> ** 
> We just spoke to our support organization and they told us "Do Not install AR 
> System 8.1.01" if you downloaded it before today. They said that it will 
> corrupt your overlays. We were just about to do it and luckily we did not. 
> BMC apparently is pulling it off the EDP site and replacing it with a new 
> one. 
> In other news, BMC's 8.1 ITSM Asset Management interim solution that leaves 
> your BMC_BaseElement intact and is supposed to synch up AST:Attributes with 
> BMC.CORE:BMC_BaseElement, does not work. The workflow that is supposed to 
> keep BaseElement and AST:attributes in synch with the Interim solution, does 
> not exist. After talking with BMC Engineering, they discovered that the 
> synchronization workflow was present in 8.0 was not brought over in 8.1. They 
> are working on a hot fix for it because my organization is not the only one 
> that got bitten by this. When we heard that that there was an interim 
> solution so that we didn't have to rewrite reports, AIE jobs, Reconciliation 
> jobs, and possible lose ADDM functionality, we were very relieved. Then we 
> found out that you could not update a CI because there is workflow that 
> updates your entry with what is in BaseElement, which never gets updated from 
> AST:ComputerSystem.  Hopefully they will fix this very soon. Speaking to the 
> support org, I heard that many of their customers are unhappy with the 
> changes that BMC made to their Asset Management structure and were postponing 
> upgrading because they had to rework so much to accommodate the changes to 
> BMC_BaseElement. The ones that tried the interim solution, like me, ended up 
> finding several issues with it. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn
> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 12:36 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: 8.1 upgrade
> 
> ** 
> Who needs documentation when you have wikis that can be updated behind the 
> scenes by conflicting groups of BMC staff with no communications to the 
> customers?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Shawn Pierson 
> Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Roger Justice
> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 12:19 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: 8.1 upgrade
> 
> ** 
> It requires more digging on our part unless BMC produces a new compatibility 
> matrix that includes the SP that have new functionality.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Cook 
> To: arslist <[email protected]>
> Sent: Mon, Nov 4, 2013 1:15 pm
> Subject: Re: 8.1 upgrade
> ** 
> We thought that when we saw that statement, too, Roger.  After digging into 
> it, 7.6.04 P5 contains the same upgrades in parallel with 8.1 P1.  So we can 
> upgrade from 7.6.04 P5 to 8.1 P1. 
> Rick
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> On Nov 4, 2013 10:10 AM, "Roger Justice"  wrote:
> ** 
> There has also been a statement concerning 7.6.04 SP5 having functionality 
> not presently in 8.1 that limits the ability to go from 7.6.04 SP5 to 8.1. 
> More monkey wrenches are being added to dictate what versions are upgradable 
> and when.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LJ LongWing 
> To: arslist <[email protected]>
> Sent: Mon, Nov 4, 2013 12:37 pm
> Subject: Re: 8.1 upgrade
> ** 
> Saji, 
> 'All Patches' is a REALLY vague thing at this moment...are they talking about 
> all Server Patches, Application Patches....and one question that I find 
> questionable about that statement....I went from 7.5 directly to 8.1...so I'm 
> not entirely sure how ANY patch in the 7.6 area affects it.....
> 
> on the other hand, I'm sure that they need a 'starting point' for the 
> application upgrade...so, that may be the 'need', that they utilized the 
> latest service pack as the upgrade path...but then you need to ask the 
> question, what was the latest at the time the 8.1 installer was 
> released...was it SP4, or SP5?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Saji Philip  wrote:
> ** 
> I was at the RUG last month and in one of the upgrade sessions I recall a 
> presenter mention that all patches needed be installed before the upgrade.
> We are on 7.6.04 sp2.  Is it best practice to go ahead and install the 
> patches to sp5 (I believe) before the upgrade? Or just upgrade?
> 
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