Moot point either way - cron jobs are not allowed on the servers for various 
reasons.  There are other ways of doing it though similar to cron.

William Rentfrow
[email protected]
Office: 715-204-3061 or 701-232-5697x25
Cell: 715-498-5056

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Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Open question to BMC on troubleshooting without the WUT

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I think the issue is that you are not testing the same process that the users 
are utilizing.  That would increase the chance of false positives.  That can be 
more frustrating than taking the time to do it manually.

The best answer that I can see is to write a java program that can run and 
monitor the servers and return (or react to) a problem.

But that is not the original request.  It was something created and supported 
by BMC.  I could write something fairly quickly, but that isn't the solution he 
was looking for.

Brian Goralczyk

Brian Goralczyk
Phone 574-643-1144
Email [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Joe D'Souza 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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If you are on UNIX or LINUX you might be able to design a cron job that runs 
every few minutes to do that using the output of arsignal –v.

Joe

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[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Rob Dudley
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:31 PM

To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Open question to BMC on troubleshooting without the WUT

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I really just wish that when users do become "hung", in the load balanced 
web/server group environment, and it is one of the servers which is 
unresponsive - that there would be some way that the server group would 
recognize it and restart the armonitor processes... OR at least place something 
in the log files which directs you to WHY the server locked up!!

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Rick Cook 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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Good ideas, Joe!  Perhaps the arserver -v (or whatever it is now) that returns 
the version would fit the bill - quick return, confirms that the server is up, 
and almost zero performance impact.

Rick Cook

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Joe D'Souza 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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How about issuing one of the command line utilities to each of the servers such 
as maybe the arsignal –g that reloads the def cache. If a server is not 
responding you would get a error 90.

I do not remember all the switches to arsignal offhand but there should be one 
that has less of an impact to a server than –g if you are worried about the 
performance impact it may have to servers that are responding well.

Or you could try to arcreateentry into a test form.

Joe

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[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of William 
Rentfrow
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:00 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Open question to BMC on troubleshooting without the WUT

Yes and no.

I've seen instances where users are locked up but the admin threads work (and 
vice versa).  So it's not the same test really as connecting as a user.

William Rentfrow
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Office: 715-204-3061<tel:715-204-3061> or 701-232-5697x25<tel:701-232-5697x25>
Cell: 715-498-5056<tel:715-498-5056>

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[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Arner, 
Todd
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 12:56 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Open question to BMC on troubleshooting without the WUT

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Could you confirm the server is available by opening the server up in Dev 
Studio?  Just a thought.

Todd Arner

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